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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>What about the jump to PostGIS 3.0 after PostGIS 2.5?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Oh you thought you could get past that by voting on something not on the table </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> postgis-devel [mailto:postgis-devel-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bborie Park<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 09, 2018 4:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> PostGIS Development Discussion <postgis-devel@lists.osgeo.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [postgis-devel] PSC Vote: Next release after 2.5 minor series will be 3.0<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>+1 for not aligning to PostgreSQL's change in versioning... *rabble* *rabble* *rabble*<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 1:28 PM Regina Obe <<a href="mailto:lr@pcorp.us">lr@pcorp.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>No No </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>3.1, 3.2 will not be maintenance releases. They will have new functions etc, as we always have done and micros will continue to be maintenance releases.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>What we lose is we have to guarantee that the minors do not drop C functions used by the previous minors SQL API so it's safe to do a pg_upgrade without installing a previous version or linking to a newer version.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>4.0 can have breaking changes – only promises to be backward compatible with 4s.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I expect each major to carry us 5-10 years.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I think aligning with PostgreSQL #s will cause more confusion than help unless we want to go down the path of each version of PostGIS only supports one major version of PostgreSQL.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>A battle even if I agreed with it I know I would lose, so not going to bother even attempting it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> postgis-devel [mailto:<a href="mailto:postgis-devel-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">postgis-devel-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Darafei "Kom?pa" Praliaskouski<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 09, 2018 4:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> PostGIS Development Discussion <<a href="mailto:postgis-devel@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">postgis-devel@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [postgis-devel] PSC Vote: Next release after 2.5 minor series will be 3.0</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>3.0 after 2.5 this September: sure. let's break all the things! :) <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Version: think not only upgrades but (accidential) downgrades. This way 3.0 3.1 3.2... can only be maintenance releases without any new features or relayout - will 2020's version be 4.0 then to accomodate for new features? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If so, why don't we jump to 11 now and match our majors with Postgres majors? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On пн, 9 ліп 2018, 23:03 Regina Obe <<a href="mailto:lr@pcorp.us" target="_blank">lr@pcorp.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>We've been quietly toying with this idea, but would like to put in stone.<br><br>Instead of having yet another minor of 2, let's go to 3.0.<br><br>Hey we went from 1.5 to 2, seems appropriate to go from 2.5 to 3.<br><br>All PostGIS developers and packagers I'd like your feedback too since it<br>will sway our decision.<br><br>My main reason for wanting to jump to 3.0 is so we can standardize on<br>dropping the minor version in our lib file.<br><br>So that means 3.0 would have a lib file<br>postgis-3.whatever_extension_os_prefers.<br><br><br>No postgis-3.0 etc. just postgis-3<br><br>And thenceforth all PostGIS from 3.0 on will no longer have the .minor<br>version and we will promise as a project to ensure we will not remove C-API<br>functions referenced in prior 3.whatever SQL api and never do so during the<br>series of a major release.<br>Thus making pg_upgrade possible without having install an older version of<br>PostGIS or to do hacks symlink lib files from older versions to newer or<br>having people have to ask us - is it okay to symlink?<br><br>+1 for 3.0 <br><br>Here are some other things on table for 3.0<br><br><a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki/PostGIS3" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki/PostGIS3</a> (breakout of postgis raster I<br>am totally against :) )<br><br>don't forget we've got a code sprint coming up this September to discuss<br>this and other topics. Signup so we know how many people to expect.<br><br><a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki/PostGISCodeSprint2018" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki/PostGISCodeSprint2018</a><br><br><br>If you are only going to join remotely, it's okay to put your name on their<br>but with note (Remote)<br><br>Thanks,<br>Regina<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>postgis-devel mailing list<br><a href="mailto:postgis-devel@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">postgis-devel@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-devel</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>postgis-devel mailing list<br><a href="mailto:postgis-devel@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">postgis-devel@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-devel</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>