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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I’d be willing to do the release if everyone is okay with the idea.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> postgis-devel [mailto:postgis-devel-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Darafei "Kom?pa" Praliaskouski<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 21, 2019 1:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> PostGIS Development Discussion <postgis-devel@lists.osgeo.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [postgis-devel] PostgIS 3.0 beta 1 ready?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>How about getting a snapshot out and calling it alpha1, implying no feature freeze? It went well for 2.5.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 6:19 AM Paul Ramsey <<a href="mailto:pramsey@cleverelephant.ca">pramsey@cleverelephant.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Not even a little… I really would like to have some kind of “solution” to the problem of extra flag space the 3D people need, even if I don’t end up touching the overall serialization beyond that.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On May 21, 2019, at 9:18 AM, Regina Obe <<a href="mailto:lr@pcorp.us" target="_blank">lr@pcorp.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Are we ready for a PostGIS 3.0 beta 1release?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Any more features we plan to put in 3.0 before we nail the box?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I’d like to package a PostGIS 3.0 beta 1 to go with the PostgreSQL 12 beta 1 as I see PostgreSQL 12 now shipping with PostGIS 2.5.2<span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>which is discouraging given the effort we’ve put in to take advantage of PostgreSQL 12 features with 3.0.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>relevant thread on IRC:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426timestamp><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>[11:42]</span></span><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><<span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois>Myon</span>> trying postgis on PG12beta1:<span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://pgdgbuild.dus.dg-i.net/job/postgis-binaries-beta/architecture=amd64,distribution=sid/35/console" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>https://pgdgbuild.dus.dg-i.net/job/postgis-binaries-beta/architecture=amd64,distribution=sid/35/console</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426timestamp><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>[11:42]</span></span><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><<span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois>sigq</span>> Title: postgis-binaries-beta » amd64,sid<span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426apple-converted-space> </span><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426hyperlink-channel>#35</span><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426apple-converted-space> </span>Console [Jenkins] (at<span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://pgdgbuild.dus.dg-i.net/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>pgdgbuild.dus.dg-i.net</span></a>)</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426timestamp><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>[11:42]</span></span><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><<span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois>Myon</span>> is that a PostGIS problem, or one in PostgreSQL? (timestamp 17:39:21)</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426timestamp><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>[11:43]</span></span><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><<span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois>robe2</span>> Myon you should be using PostGIS 3.0 for 12</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426timestamp><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>[11:43]</span></span><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><<span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois>Myon</span>> well that doesn't exist yet</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426timestamp><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>[11:43]</span></span><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><<span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois>robe2</span>> Myon if we shipped a beta would that help?</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426timestamp><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>[11:43]</span></span><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><<span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois>robe2</span>> We are planning to release PostGIS 3.0 around same time as 12</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426timestamp><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>[11:44]</span></span><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><<span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois>robe2</span>> because it has a lot of stuff just for 12 :)</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426timestamp><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>[11:44]</span></span><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><<span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois>Myon</span>> a beta would help sortish, because I wouldn't want to ship to users before it's stable, while still trying to support PG12</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426timestamp><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>[11:45]</span></span><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><<span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois>Myon</span>> it's just these extra "WARNING: stats for "t.g" do not exist" lines, the rest of the tests works</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426timestamp><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>[11:45]</span></span><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><<span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois>Myon</span>> does it make sense that these are duplicated now, or is that something that should be fixed in PostgreSQL itself? (I haven't yet read any postgis code)</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426timestamp><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>[11:45]</span></span><span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><<span class=gmail-m-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois>robe2</span>> Okay let me bring it up for discussion on postgis dev</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><robe2> we aren't testing PostgreSQL 12 on 2.5 -- so it may not work completely until release time as we won't be in a rush to fix issues on 12 in 2.5 until release</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>[11:46] <robe2> and the most we'd promise is it compiles -- not necessarily it regresses</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>[11:48] <Algunenano> About the duplicated messages, I think that the issue had to do with CTEs and robe2 fixed it in 3.0 and refushed (:D) to fixed it in 2.5</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>[11:50] <robe2> :D) yap I refused we didn't put in all this effort in 3.0 for 12 just to have people shipping 2.5 with 12</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If we aren’t ready maybe we should just wait till PG 13 comes out and forgo the 3.0 release in September. As there is no point in shipping a 3.0 mid cycle after PostgreSQL 12 is released and if packagers are going to ship a 2.5. Everyone will be settled in on a 2.5 and won’t waste their time upgrading to a 3.0 even if packagers were willing to ship a 3.0 with 12, which most WILL NOT.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Regina<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>_______________________________________________<br>postgis-devel mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:postgis-devel@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>postgis-devel@lists.osgeo.org</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br></span><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-devel" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-devel</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>postgis-devel mailing list<br><a href="mailto:postgis-devel@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">postgis-devel@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-devel</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Darafei Praliaskouski<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Support me: <a href="http://patreon.com/komzpa" target="_blank">http://patreon.com/komzpa</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>