<div dir="ltr">How about getting a snapshot out and calling it alpha1, implying no feature freeze? It went well for 2.5.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 6:19 AM Paul Ramsey <<a href="mailto:pramsey@cleverelephant.ca">pramsey@cleverelephant.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Not even a little… I really would like to have some kind of “solution” to the problem of extra flag space the 3D people need, even if I don’t end up touching the overall serialization beyond that.<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 21, 2019, at 9:18 AM, Regina Obe <<a href="mailto:lr@pcorp.us" target="_blank">lr@pcorp.us</a>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426WordSection1" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Are we ready for a PostGIS 3.0 beta 1release?<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Any more features we plan to put in 3.0 before we nail the box?<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I’d like to package a PostGIS 3.0 beta 1 to go with the PostgreSQL 12 beta 1 as I see PostgreSQL 12 now shipping with PostGIS 2.5.2<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-converted-space"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">which is discouraging given the effort we’ve put in to take advantage of PostgreSQL 12 features with 3.0.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">relevant thread on IRC:<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426timestamp"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">[11:42]<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois">Myon</span>> trying postgis on PG12beta1:<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://pgdgbuild.dus.dg-i.net/job/postgis-binaries-beta/architecture=amd64,distribution=sid/35/console" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://pgdgbuild.dus.dg-i.net/job/postgis-binaries-beta/architecture=amd64,distribution=sid/35/console</a><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426timestamp"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">[11:42]<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois">sigq</span>> Title: postgis-binaries-beta » amd64,sid<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426hyperlink-channel">#35</span><span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-converted-space"> </span>Console [Jenkins] (at<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://pgdgbuild.dus.dg-i.net/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">pgdgbuild.dus.dg-i.net</a>)<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426timestamp"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">[11:42]<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois">Myon</span>> is that a PostGIS problem, or one in PostgreSQL? (timestamp 17:39:21)<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426timestamp"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">[11:43]<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois">robe2</span>> Myon you should be using PostGIS 3.0 for 12<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426timestamp"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">[11:43]<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois">Myon</span>> well that doesn't exist yet<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426timestamp"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">[11:43]<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois">robe2</span>> Myon if we shipped a beta would that help?<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426timestamp"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">[11:43]<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois">robe2</span>> We are planning to release PostGIS 3.0 around same time as 12<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426timestamp"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">[11:44]<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois">robe2</span>> because it has a lot of stuff just for 12 :)<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426timestamp"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">[11:44]<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois">Myon</span>> a beta would help sortish, because I wouldn't want to ship to users before it's stable, while still trying to support PG12<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426timestamp"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">[11:45]<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois">Myon</span>> it's just these extra "WARNING:  stats for "t.g" do not exist" lines, the rest of the tests works<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426timestamp"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">[11:45]<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois">Myon</span>> does it make sense that these are duplicated now, or is that something that should be fixed in PostgreSQL itself? (I haven't yet read any postgis code)<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426timestamp"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">[11:45]<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><<span class="gmail-m_-6977378899132411426hyperlink-whois">robe2</span>> Okay let me bring it up for discussion on postgis dev<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Courier New""><robe2> we aren't testing PostgreSQL 12 on 2.5 -- so it may not work completely until release time as we won't be in a rush to fix issues on 12 in 2.5 until release<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Courier New"">[11:46] <robe2> and the most we'd promise is it compiles -- not necessarily it regresses<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Courier New"">[11:48] <Algunenano> About the duplicated messages, I think that the issue had to do with CTEs and robe2 fixed it in 3.0 and refushed (:D) to fixed it in 2.5<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Courier New"">[11:50] <robe2> :D) yap I refused we didn't put in all this effort in 3.0 for 12 just to have people shipping 2.5 with 12<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">If we aren’t ready maybe we should just wait till PG 13 comes out and forgo the 3.0 release in September. As there is no point in shipping a 3.0 mid cycle after PostgreSQL 12 is released and if packagers are going to ship a 2.5.  Everyone will be settled in on a 2.5 and won’t waste their time upgrading to a 3.0 even if packagers were willing to ship a 3.0 with 12, which most WILL NOT.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Regina<u></u><u></u></div></div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">postgis-devel mailing list</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><a href="mailto:postgis-devel@lists.osgeo.org" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline;font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">postgis-devel@lists.osgeo.org</a><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-devel" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline;font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-devel</a></div></blockquote></div><br></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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