[postgis-users] Seeking Funding for Faster PostGIS Indexes

[Paragon Corporation]

Paul,
Multi-million dollar companies are sadly very illogical and dysfunctional I
wouldn't even waste my breath on them.   The only way to get money from them
is the promise of embarassment if they don't comply.

Come up with a  fail-proof embarassment strategy and you'll have more money
than you know what to do with :).

-----Original Message-----
From: postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net
[mailto:postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net] On Behalf Of Paul
Ramsey
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 4:56 PM
To: PostGIS Users Discussion
Subject: Re: [postgis-users] Seeking Funding for Faster PostGIS Indexes

Our problem isn't our ability to milk $50 donations from our impoverished
user community, it's multi-million dollar companies for whom a $10K contract
is almost two small to draft free-riding on on the community. Honestly, this
is not a crowd-sourcing problem.

I'm asking folks who might have access to said larger chunks of money to
contact me, no strings attached, and if there's an appetite I will send add
them to the distribution list for the statement of work and they can decide
if they want to shop the project up to their superiors. Yes, it's a long
ways away, but waiting a year won't make it any closer. It'll always take
12-18 months from inception to deliver of numbered release.

P.

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Paragon Corporation <lr at pcorp.us> wrote:
> Eli,
>
> Yes we've made a lot of progress.  We are in the code provenance phase 
> and then I think we are pretty much done.
>
> Paul,
> I think part of the problem like I mentioned is we really got to make 
> it easier for people to give money to the PostGIS project.
>
> To me that means:
>
> Being able to support micro-donations
> Getting our incubation act together so our funding can fall under the 
> OSGEO umbrella and people that need a non-profit  tax umbrella of some 
> sort can use that .
> As strk suggested better outlining of these tasks and realistic effort 
> invovled to execute.
>
> For this particular case -- I think the gains are just too far down 
> the horizon to really appreciate -- I know a year or a half doesn't 
> seem like much but it seems like eons to many.
> Of course for this particular case -- this could be funneled thru the 
> PostgreSQL non-profits since its not a PostGIS only benefit.
>
> Just some guesses.
>
> Thanks,
> Regina
> http://www.postgis.us
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net
> [mailto:postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net] On Behalf Of 
> Eli Adam
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 4:46 PM
> To: PostGIS Users Discussion
> Subject: Re: [postgis-users] Seeking Funding for Faster PostGIS 
> Indexes
>
> Any progress since the end of last year when I asked about the option 
> to contribute to PostGIS through OSGeo?
>
> Thanks, Eli
>
>>>> On 6/9/2011 at 1:20 PM, in message
> <BANLkTi=KyjUJgFFdJ14AHNt=jP6=bjweQQ at mail.gmail.com>, Paul Ramsey 
> <pramsey at opengeo.org> wrote:
>> This is a once-in-a-blue-moon opportunity to make your PostGIS an 
>> order of magnitude faster... I'm surprised there has been so little 
>> response!
>>
>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Paul Ramsey <pramsey at opengeo.org> wrote:
>>> One of the eye-opening talks of PgCon last week was the presentation 
>>> from Oleg Bartunov and Teodor Sigaev on their work on spatial 
>>> partitioning indexes in PostgreSQL. Oleg and Teodor are the 
>>> maintainers of the GiST framework we use for our r-tree, and are 
>>> proposing a new framework to allow quad-tree and kd-tree 
>>> implementations in PostgreSQL.
>>>
>>> http://www.pgcon.org/2011/schedule/events/309.en.html
>>>
>>> The upshot is, this new approach is as much as 6-times faster than 
>>> the r-tree (at least for points). If you're interested in seeing 
>>> PostGIS indexes get vastly faster, consider funding this project. 
>>> Get in touch with me directly for details.
>>>
>>> http://blog.opengeo.org/2011/05/27/pgcon-notes-3/
>>>
>>> P.
>>>
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