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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
      <br>
      Some time ago I installed PostgreSQL with the DBEntreprise
      installer, but it was coming with the PgAdmin 4,witch I really
      didn't appreciate (mostly because it runs really slowly in
      comparison with PgAdmin3 on my machine ...).<br>
      For that reason I came back to PostgreSQL 9.6.<br>
      Do you know If it's now possible to have PostgreSQL 10 installed
      with PgAdmin 3 (or if PgAdmin 4 has dealt with his problems of
      slowness, wich many people have noticed) ? <br>
      <br>
      Thanks,<br>
      Jean<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Le 11/12/2017 à 20:24, Anthony DeBarros a écrit :<br>
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        Regina,</div>
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style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">Nope,
        Postgres.app doesn’t include it. Haven’t successfully found an
        alternative.</div>
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      <br>
      <br>
      <p class="airmail_on">On December 11, 2017 at 1:17:19 PM, Regina
        Obe (<a href="mailto:lr@pcorp.us" moz-do-not-send="true">lr@pcorp.us</a>)
        wrote:</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Anthony,</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Sorry
                    no clue about Mac.  I thought perhaps Postgres.app
                    might have it</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a
href="http://postgresapp.com/documentation/gui-tools.html"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">http://postgresapp.com/documentation/gui-tools.html</a></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">but
                    don't see it listed under their Gui Client apps. 
                    It's possible they missed listing it and they have
                    it.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I
                    see the PostGIS commandline tools listed under CLI
                    apps though</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a
href="http://postgresapp.com/documentation/cli-tools.html"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">http://postgresapp.com/documentation/cli-tools.html</a></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks,</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Regina</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                        postgis-users [mailto:<a
                          href="mailto:postgis-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">postgis-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>]
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony DeBarros<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 11, 2017 8:41 AM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> PostGIS Users Discussion <<a
                          href="mailto:postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [postgis-users] Given up</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Regina
                      (or anyone),</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I
                      had posted a couple weeks back about not being
                      able to find a version of the Shapefile Loader GUI
                      that works under macOS High Sierra. The one I
                      recently downloaded from Boundless doesn’t work.
                      Any ideas on alternates?</span></p>
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                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Thanks,</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Anthony</span></p>
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                    style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p>
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                <p class="airmailon" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
                    style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">On
                    December 11, 2017 at 8:23:31 AM, Regina Obe (<a
                      href="mailto:lr@pcorp.us" moz-do-not-send="true">lr@pcorp.us</a>)
                    wrote:</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Darrel,</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">There
                            was an issue with when PostgreSQL 10 came
                            out that the stack builder did not show the
                            PostGIS spatial extension I had uploaded.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">This
                            was fixed in PostgreSQL 10.1 so perhaps you
                            went to it pre-10.1.</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Regarding
                            not creating spatial db, that is odd.  There
                            is a checkbox to create one, but I do have
                            it unchecked by default, cause it's better
                            for people to just use CREATE EXTENSION on
                            whatever database they want.  I keep that
                            feature there just so I can test when I
                            deploy to make sure all extensions can be
                            created.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">As
                            noted by Bo below, BigSQL packages PostGIS
                            too and that one IS NOT VIA STACKBUILDER. 
                            STACKBUILDER is for EDB installs.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Use
                            pgc commandline or pgDevOps for BigSQL.</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">However,
                            the EDB windows and BigSQL Windows binaries
                            are compatible (both compiled with mingw64),
                            so if you ever need anything you can't find
                            in BigSQL (pgRouting and SFCGAL come to
                            mind)</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">You
                            can use the zip binaries on this page –</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><a
href="https://postgis.net/windows_downloads/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://postgis.net/windows_downloads/</a></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Thanks,</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Regina</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p>
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                              style="margin-left:1.0in"><b>From:</b>
                              postgis-users [mailto:<a
                                href="mailto:postgis-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">postgis-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>]
                              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bo Victor Thomsen<br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 11, 2017
                              4:14 AM<br>
                              <b>To:</b> <a
                                href="mailto:postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [postgis-users] Given
                              up</p>
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                            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Hi
                            Darrel -</span></p>
                        <p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span
                            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">As
                            you already have found an alternative
                            installation, this mail is just a heads-up
                            for future users of the BigSQL installation
                            of PostgreSQL:</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in"><span
                            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span
                            style="font-size:7.0pt">        </span>The
                          BigSQL administrative interface is based on
                          some kind of local http-server software, which
                          serves a JavaScript based program for
                          installing/upgrading PostgreSQL and extensions
                          (localhost:8051 IIRC)</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in"><span
                            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span
                            style="font-size:7.0pt">        </span>This
                          works very nicely (some times). But depending
                          on your choice of antivirus - it can be a
                          *royal* pain, because *your* antivirus
                          software a lot of the time will stop *you*
                          from using the interface. </p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in"><span
                            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span
                            style="font-size:7.0pt">        </span>However,
                          BigSQL has an alternative installation method:
                          the <b>pgc</b> command line interface.</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in"><span
                            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span
                            style="font-size:7.0pt">        </span>You
                          can do the following:</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.0in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">o</span><span
                            style="font-size:7.0pt">   </span>Start a
                          DOS box with administrative rights
                          (Right-click the dox-box icon, choose "Run as
                          Administrator")</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.0in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">o</span><span
                            style="font-size:7.0pt">   </span>In the
                          dos box, navigate to the installation
                          directory of BigSQL, usually c:\PostgreSQL or
                          c:\BigSQL</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.0in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">o</span><span
                            style="font-size:7.0pt">   </span>type
                          "pgc" . This will give you a list of supported
                          command for pgc.</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.0in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">o</span><span
                            style="font-size:7.0pt">   </span>Example -
                          Install the PostGIS 2.4 extension for
                          PostgreSQL: type "<b>pgc install
                            postgis24-pg10</b>"</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.0in"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">o</span><span
                            style="font-size:7.0pt">   </span>Give it a
                          minute to download and install and then:
                          Voila! you have the PostGIS extension for
                          PostgreSQL installed and ready for use.</p>
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                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in">Regards<br>
                          Bo Victor Thomsen<br>
                          LIFA A/S, Denmark<br>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Den
                            10-12-2017 kl. 20:29 skrev Darrel Maddy:</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Dear
                            all,</p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"> </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">This
                            is probably not the best time for me to be
                            writing this but I think it is sometimes
                            useful to report negative outcomes.</p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"> </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">I
                            have a new laptop running windows 10. I have
                            not installed postgresql or postgis for some
                            time so I decided to use the binaries. Using
                            the BIGSQL download proved to be a
                            nightmare. Postgresql 10 installs without
                            issue but with no stackbuilder option (it
                            does not appear anywhere in the menus nor in
                            the directories)  I attempted to try and
                            install the postgis binaries. Needless to
                            say that failed with repeated errors for
                            files it could not find. I have spent a few
                            hours trying to convince this that the files
                            are there but now I have given up. To add
                            insult to injury the postgis uninstall did
                            not work and the postgresql uninstall failed
                            to remove most of its components. God knows
                            what mess it has made of any registry
                            entries (assuming it does that). I tried 9.6
                            but stackbuilder did not appear there either
                            so I have lost whatever patience I may have
                            started out with. I realise the install
                            instructions do not refer to the latest
                            versions but I reluctantly admit failure.
                            May be I just cannot follow instructions?</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Perhaps
                            as I get older I forget previous experience
                            but I do not remember it being such a mess
                            previously.  Maybe I will try again in a
                            month or two – is the situation likely to
                            improve? </p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Sorry
                            but I needed to get this off my chest and
                            the criticism is NOT aimed at anyone in
                            particular.</p>
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