<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Raj,</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the reply, but it's more complicated than that. I guess I failed to mention that I already tried the traditional extension upgrade paths prior to attempting the aws postgresql upgrade. From my original email you can see that postgis is version 3.1.7, which appears to be the current version on aws rds. So I don't think the existing extension(s) are out of date, other than the partially (un)installed raster.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Here's what the extension upgrade command looks like:<br></div><div style="margin-left:40px"><span style="font-family:monospace">db=> alter extension postgis update;<br>NOTICE: version "3.1.7" of extension "postgis" is already installed<br>ALTER EXTENSION</span></div><div style="margin-left:40px"><span style="font-family:monospace"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">It seems that the extensions were previously updated, but then partially deleted in an incorrect way.</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Do you have any other ideas?</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Thanks,</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">->jvp</span></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace"></span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 5:03 PM Raj Talati <<a href="mailto:rajtalati@gmail.com">rajtalati@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">You tried to do upgrade the extension it might be case that the current old extension was not upgraded . Alter extension PostGis update and then you can retry upgrade.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I guess whoever did PG 12 upgrade not did alter extension Postgis update and when now you trying that missed prior is giving error.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Most likely this the case. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Good luck</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jim VanPeursem <jvp@jvp.llc> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Greetings,<br><br>[originally posted on pgsql-admin, but referred here]<br><br>I recently took over the management of a postgresql + postgis db on aws rds. Given the age of this project, the db itself is probably ~7-8 years old. It is currently on v12.12 and I'm unable to upgrade it to 13+. The db does use postgis, but as far as I can tell, no raster or topology or other postgis-related fields/features.<br><br><div>When I try to upgrade on aws, I get the following error:</div><div style="margin-left:40px">The instance could not be upgraded because there are one or more databases with an older version of PostGIS extension or its dependent extensions (address_standardizer, address_standardizer_data_us, postgis_tiger_geocoder, postgis_topology, postgis_raster) installed.<br>Please upgrade all installations of PostGIS and drop its dependent extensions and try again.</div><div><br></div><div>SELECT postgis_full_version(); gives the following (reformatted for clarity):<br><div style="margin-left:40px"> POSTGIS="3.1.7 aafe1ff" [EXTENSION]<br> PGSQL="120"<br> GEOS="3.8.2-CAPI-1.13.4"<br> PROJ="Rel. 5.2.0, September 15th, 2018"<br> GDAL="GDAL 2.4.4, released 2020/01/08"<br> LIBXML="2.9.1"<br> LIBJSON="0.13.1"<br> LIBPROTOBUF="1.3.2"<br> WAGYU="0.5.0 (Internal)"<br> RASTER (raster lib from "2.5.5 r0" need upgrade) [UNPACKAGED!] (raster procs from "2.5.2 r17328" need upgrade)<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>Note that it lists RASTER both as being unpackaged and needing an upgrade, even though postgis_raster is apparently not installed. My thinking is that somewhere along the way, postgis_raster and possibly topology were installed and later uninstalled (perhaps after being unbundled?).<br><br>For more clues, I issued the following command. For clarity I replace the account numbers with pseudo-usernames for clarity. Also note that schema_1 and schema_2 are two schemas that the project uses.</div><div><div style="margin-left:40px"><span style="font-family:monospace">db=> select a.extname, a.extowner, a.extnamespace, a.extversion, b.nspname, b.nspowner from pg_catalog.pg_extension a, pg_namespace b where a.extname LIKE '%postgis%';<br> extname | extowner | extnamespace | extversion | nspname | nspowner<br> ---------+------------+--------------+------------+--------------------+----------<br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | pg_toast | <rdsadmin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | pg_temp_1 | <rdsadmin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | pg_toast_temp_1 | <rdsadmin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | pg_catalog | <rdsadmin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | information_schema | <rdsadmin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | extensions | <local_admin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | schema_1 | <local_admin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | my_new_topo | <local_admin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | tiger | <local_admin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | tiger_data | <local_admin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | topology | <local_admin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | schema_2 | <local_admin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | public | <local_admin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | pg_temp_4 | <rdsadmin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | pg_toast_temp_4 | <rdsadmin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | pg_temp_5 | <rdsadmin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | pg_toast_temp_5 | <rdsadmin></span><br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm not familiar enough with postgresql nor postgis to understand whether the nspname entries for tiger, topology, etc. are expected, or offer clues as to the problem that I am encountering.<br><br>Some things that I've tried:</div><div style="margin-left:40px"><span style="font-family:monospace">db=> SELECT postgis_extensions_upgrade();<br>NOTICE: Extension postgis_raster is not available or not packagable for some reason<br>NOTICE: Extension postgis_topology is not available or not packagable for some reason<br>NOTICE: Extension postgis_tiger_geocoder is not available or not packagable for some reason<br> postgis_extensions_upgrade<br>-------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Upgrade completed, run SELECT postgis_full_version(); for details</span><br></div><div><br></div><div>Also:</div><div style="margin-left:40px"><span style="font-family:monospace">db=> select * from pg_available_extensions where name like 'postgis%';<br> name | default_version | installed_version | comment<br>------------------------+-----------------+-------------------+------------------------------------------------------------<br> postgis | 3.1.7 | 3.1.7 | PostGIS geometry and geography spatial types and functions<br> postgis_tiger_geocoder | 3.1.7 | | PostGIS tiger geocoder and reverse geocoder<br> postgis_topology | 3.1.7 | | PostGIS topology spatial types and functions<br> postgis_raster | 3.1.7 | | PostGIS raster types and functions<br>(4 rows)</span></div><div><br></div><div>And:</div><div style="margin-left:40px"><span style="font-family:monospace">db=> \dx<br> List of installed extensions<br> Name | Version | Schema | Description<br>---------------+---------+------------+---------------------------------------------------------------------<br> fuzzystrmatch | 1.1 | extensions | determine similarities and distance between strings<br> plpgsql | 1.0 | pg_catalog | PL/pgSQL procedural language<br> postgis | 3.1.7 | extensions | PostGIS geometry, geography, and raster spatial types and functions<br> sslinfo | 1.2 | public | information about SSL certificates<br>(4 rows)</span></div><div><br></div><div>And:</div><div style="margin-left:40px"><span style="font-family:monospace">db=> CREATE EXTENSION postgis_raster;<br>ERROR: PostGIS Raster is already installed in schema 'extensions'<br>CONTEXT: PL/pgSQL function inline_code_block line 10 at RAISE</span><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace">And:</span></div><div style="margin-left:40px"><span style="font-family:monospace">db=> DROP EXTENSION postgis_raster;<br>ERROR: extension "postgis_raster" does not exist</span><br><br></div><div>I also did a snapshot backup and restored to a new instance on aws, and this resulted in exactly the same problem on the new instance.<br><br>Erik Weinhold from the pgsql-admin mailing list helpfully pointed out the following:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Could be that someone "uninstalled" them by deleting from pg_extension.<div><div><div id="m_-3261816002285490345m_-3669456867618042892gmail-q_170"><div></div></div></div></div>
Deleting from pg_extension reproduces the error:<br>
<br>
test=# create extension postgis_raster;<br>
CREATE EXTENSION<br>
test=# delete from pg_extension where extname = 'postgis_raster';<br>
DELETE 1<br>
test=# drop extension postgis_raster;<span><br>
ERROR: extension "postgis_raster" does not exist<br></span>
test=# create extension postgis_raster;<br>
ERROR: PostGIS Raster is already installed in schema 'public'<span><br>
CONTEXT: PL/pgSQL function inline_code_block line 10 at RAISE<br>
<br></span>
That last error message does not come from checking pg_extension but rather<br>
postgis_raster itself[2].<br>
<br>
I tried DROP SCHEMA extensions CASCADE at this point to get rid of the<br>
remaining objects but that fails:<br>
<br>
test=# drop schema extensions cascade;<br>
ERROR: cache lookup failed for extension 27232<span><br></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Is there a way to either restore or remove the unbundled / partial raster support so that it can be upgraded? Does anyone have other suggestions on what I could try? I'd like to get to postgresql v13+ with only postgis (no raster, topology, etc.) installed without losing any data along the journey. Is my only recourse to do a full data backup to sql followed by creating a new instance and restoring data?<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>->jvp</div><div><br></div></div></div>
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