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    <p>Jim,</p>
    <p>We did a series of updates from 10.17 through to 13+ with Postgis

      some time back on AWS.  I just pulled up the notes from the dry
      run</p>
    <p>SELECT PostGIS_Extensions_Upgrade();</p>
    <p>does apply to "all the pieces and parts".  It wasn't uncommon for
      it to say Raster (Topology, etc) wasn't available, especially when

      it wasn't installed.</p>
    <p>There was one time where running <br>
    </p>
    <p>SELECT PostGIS_Extensions_Upgrade();</p>
    <p>followed by <br>
    </p>
    <p>select postgis_full_version();</p>
    <p>indicated we had to run the Extensions Upgrade AGAIN.</p>
    <p>Based on your research, it does sound like something may have
      been deleted "not using" the AWS/Postgis packaged tools.  I don't
      know the internals of PostGis enough to even guess.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Can you maybe create a new v 12 database with Postgis and Rastor
      installed.. and look in the extension there to see what might be
      missing in your main DB?<br>
    </p>
    <p>Roxanne<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/23/2023 4:03 PM, Raj Talati wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">You tried to do upgrade the extension it might be
        case that the current old extension was not upgraded .  Alter
        extension PostGis update and then you can retry upgrade.</div>
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      <div dir="auto">I guess whoever did PG 12 upgrade not did alter
        extension Postgis update and when now you trying that missed
        prior is giving error.</div>
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      <div dir="auto">Most likely this the case. </div>
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      <div dir="auto">Good luck</div>
      <div><br>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 6:15
            PM Jim VanPeursem <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jvp@jvp.llc"><jvp@jvp.llc></a> wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">Greetings,<br>
              <br>
              [originally posted on pgsql-admin, but referred here]<br>
              <br>
              I recently took over the management of a postgresql +
              postgis db on aws rds. Given the age of this project, the
              db itself is probably ~7-8 years old. It is currently on
              v12.12 and I'm unable to upgrade it to 13+. The db does
              use postgis, but as far as I can tell, no raster or
              topology or other postgis-related fields/features.<br>
              <br>
              <div>When I try to upgrade on aws, I get the following
                error:</div>
              <div style="margin-left:40px">The instance could not be
                upgraded because there are one or more databases with an

                older version of PostGIS extension or its dependent
                extensions (address_standardizer,
                address_standardizer_data_us, postgis_tiger_geocoder,
                postgis_topology, postgis_raster) installed.<br>
                Please upgrade all installations of PostGIS and drop its

                dependent extensions and try again.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>SELECT postgis_full_version(); gives the following
                (reformatted for clarity):<br>
                <div style="margin-left:40px">    POSTGIS="3.1.7
                  aafe1ff" [EXTENSION]<br>
                      PGSQL="120"<br>
                      GEOS="3.8.2-CAPI-1.13.4"<br>
                      PROJ="Rel. 5.2.0, September 15th, 2018"<br>
                      GDAL="GDAL 2.4.4, released 2020/01/08"<br>
                      LIBXML="2.9.1"<br>
                      LIBJSON="0.13.1"<br>
                      LIBPROTOBUF="1.3.2"<br>
                      WAGYU="0.5.0 (Internal)"<br>
                      RASTER (raster lib from "2.5.5 r0" need upgrade)
                  [UNPACKAGED!] (raster procs from "2.5.2 r17328" need
                  upgrade)<br>
                </div>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Note that it lists RASTER both as being unpackaged
                and needing an upgrade, even though postgis_raster is
                apparently not installed. My thinking is that somewhere
                along the way, postgis_raster and possibly topology were

                installed and later uninstalled (perhaps after being
                unbundled?).<br>
                <br>
                For more clues, I issued the following command. For
                clarity I replace the account numbers with
                pseudo-usernames for clarity. Also note that schema_1
                and schema_2 are two schemas that the project uses.</div>
              <div>
                <div style="margin-left:40px"><span
                    style="font-family:monospace">db=> select
                    a.extname, a.extowner, a.extnamespace, a.extversion,

                    b.nspname, b.nspowner from pg_catalog.pg_extension
                    a, pg_namespace b where a.extname LIKE '%postgis%';<br>
                         extname |  extowner  | extnamespace |
                    extversion |      nspname       | nspowner<br>
                       
---------+------------+--------------+------------+--------------------+----------<br>
                         postgis | <rdsadmin> |        16404 |
                    3.1.7      | pg_toast           | <rdsadmin><br>
                         postgis | <rdsadmin> |        16404 |
                    3.1.7      | pg_temp_1          | <rdsadmin><br>
                         postgis | <rdsadmin> |        16404 |
                    3.1.7      | pg_toast_temp_1    | <rdsadmin><br>
                         postgis | <rdsadmin> |        16404 |
                    3.1.7      | pg_catalog         | <rdsadmin><br>
                         postgis | <rdsadmin> |        16404 |
                    3.1.7      | information_schema | <rdsadmin><br>
                         postgis | <rdsadmin> |        16404 |
                    3.1.7      | extensions         |
                    <local_admin><br>
                         postgis | <rdsadmin> |        16404 |
                    3.1.7      | schema_1           |
                    <local_admin><br>
                         postgis | <rdsadmin> |        16404 |
                    3.1.7      | my_new_topo        |
                    <local_admin><br>
                         postgis | <rdsadmin> |        16404 |
                    3.1.7      | tiger              |
                    <local_admin><br>
                         postgis | <rdsadmin> |        16404 |
                    3.1.7      | tiger_data         |
                    <local_admin><br>
                         postgis | <rdsadmin> |        16404 |
                    3.1.7      | topology           |
                    <local_admin><br>
                         postgis | <rdsadmin> |        16404 |
                    3.1.7      | schema_2           |
                    <local_admin><br>
                         postgis | <rdsadmin> |        16404 |
                    3.1.7      | public             |
                    <local_admin><br>
                         postgis | <rdsadmin> |        16404 |
                    3.1.7      | pg_temp_4          | <rdsadmin><br>
                         postgis | <rdsadmin> |        16404 |
                    3.1.7      | pg_toast_temp_4    | <rdsadmin><br>
                         postgis | <rdsadmin> |        16404 |
                    3.1.7      | pg_temp_5          | <rdsadmin><br>
                         postgis | <rdsadmin> |        16404 |
                    3.1.7      | pg_toast_temp_5    | <rdsadmin></span><br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>I'm not familiar enough with postgresql nor postgis

                  to understand whether the nspname entries for tiger,
                  topology, etc. are expected, or offer clues as to the
                  problem that I am encountering.<br>
                  <br>
                  Some things that I've tried:</div>
                <div style="margin-left:40px"><span
                    style="font-family:monospace">db=> SELECT
                    postgis_extensions_upgrade();<br>
                    NOTICE:  Extension postgis_raster is not available
                    or not packagable for some reason<br>
                    NOTICE:  Extension postgis_topology is not available
                    or not packagable for some reason<br>
                    NOTICE:  Extension postgis_tiger_geocoder is not
                    available or not packagable for some reason<br>
                                       postgis_extensions_upgrade<br>
-------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
                    Upgrade completed, run SELECT
                    postgis_full_version(); for details</span><br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Also:</div>
                <div style="margin-left:40px"><span
                    style="font-family:monospace">db=> select * from
                    pg_available_extensions where name like 'postgis%';<br>
                              name          | default_version |
                    installed_version |                          comment<br>
------------------------+-----------------+-------------------+------------------------------------------------------------<br>
                     postgis                | 3.1.7           | 3.1.7  
                              | PostGIS geometry and geography spatial
                    types and functions<br>
                     postgis_tiger_geocoder | 3.1.7           |        
                              | PostGIS tiger geocoder and reverse
                    geocoder<br>
                     postgis_topology       | 3.1.7           |        
                              | PostGIS topology spatial types and
                    functions<br>
                     postgis_raster         | 3.1.7           |        
                              | PostGIS raster types and functions<br>
                    (4 rows)</span></div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>And:</div>
                <div style="margin-left:40px"><span
                    style="font-family:monospace">db=> \dx<br>
                                                          List of
                    installed extensions<br>
                         Name      | Version |   Schema   |            
                                    Description<br>
---------------+---------+------------+---------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
                     fuzzystrmatch | 1.1     | extensions | determine
                    similarities and distance between strings<br>
                     plpgsql       | 1.0     | pg_catalog | PL/pgSQL
                    procedural language<br>
                     postgis       | 3.1.7   | extensions | PostGIS
                    geometry, geography, and raster spatial types and
                    functions<br>
                     sslinfo       | 1.2     | public     | information
                    about SSL certificates<br>
                    (4 rows)</span></div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>And:</div>
                <div style="margin-left:40px"><span
                    style="font-family:monospace">db=> CREATE
                    EXTENSION postgis_raster;<br>
                    ERROR:  PostGIS Raster is already installed in
                    schema 'extensions'<br>
                    CONTEXT:  PL/pgSQL function inline_code_block line
                    10 at RAISE</span><br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div><span style="font-family:monospace">And:</span></div>
                <div style="margin-left:40px"><span
                    style="font-family:monospace">db=> DROP EXTENSION
                    postgis_raster;<br>
                    ERROR:  extension "postgis_raster" does not exist</span><br>
                  <br>
                </div>
                <div>I also did a snapshot backup and restored to a new
                  instance on aws, and this resulted in exactly the same

                  problem on the new instance.<br>
                  <br>
                  Erik Weinhold from the pgsql-admin mailing list
                  helpfully pointed out the following:</div>
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                  <div>Could be that someone "uninstalled" them by
                    deleting from pg_extension.
                    Deleting from pg_extension reproduces the error:<br>

                    <br>
                            test=# create extension postgis_raster;<br>
                            CREATE EXTENSION<br>
                            test=# delete from pg_extension where
                    extname = 'postgis_raster';<br>
                            DELETE 1<br>
                            test=# drop extension postgis_raster;<span><br>
                              ERROR:  extension "postgis_raster" does
                      not exist<br>
                    </span>
                            test=# create extension postgis_raster;<br>
                            ERROR:  PostGIS Raster is already installed
                    in schema 'public'<span><br>
                              CONTEXT:  PL/pgSQL function
                      inline_code_block line 10 at RAISE<br>
                      <br>
                    </span>
                    That last error message does not come from checking
                    pg_extension but rather<br>
                    postgis_raster itself[2].<br>
                    <br>
                    I tried  DROP SCHEMA extensions CASCADE  at this
                    point to get rid of the<br>
                    remaining objects but that fails:<br>
                    <br>
                            test=# drop schema extensions cascade;<br>
                            ERROR:  cache lookup failed for extension
                    27232<span><br>
                    </span></div>
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                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Is there a way to either restore or remove the
                  unbundled / partial raster support so that it can be
                  upgraded? Does anyone have other suggestions on what I
                  could try? I'd like to get to postgresql v13+ with
                  only postgis (no raster, topology, etc.) installed
                  without losing any data along the journey. Is my only
                  recourse to do a full data backup to sql followed by
                  creating a new instance and restoring data?<br>
                  <br>
                  Thanks,<br>
                  <br>
                  ->jvp</div>
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