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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Jim,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>At a glance what you have their looks fine. You just need to run <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>SELECT postgis_extensions_upgrade();<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>One more time, so it repackages raster functions into postgis_raster and upgrades them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Then if you don’t need raster support, you can run:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>DROP EXTENSION postgis_raster;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>You can ignore all those notices, just telling you those extensions you don’t have installed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Strk, remind me why we have these notices, I think it just confuses people more than being helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Regina<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> postgis-users [mailto:postgis-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim VanPeursem<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 23, 2023 8:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> PostGIS Users Discussion <postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [postgis-users] Upgrade 12->13 stuck due to postgis / raster issue<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Roxanne,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for the help. Here's what I see when I follow the normal postgis extension update path:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>db=> SELECT PostGIS_Extensions_Upgrade();<br>NOTICE: Extension postgis_raster is not available or not packagable for some reason<br>NOTICE: Extension postgis_topology is not available or not packagable for some reason<br>NOTICE: Extension postgis_tiger_geocoder is not available or not packagable for some reason<br> postgis_extensions_upgrade<br>-------------------------------------------------------------------<br> Upgrade completed, run SELECT postgis_full_version(); for details<br>(1 row)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>db=> select postgis_full_version();<o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal> postgis_full_version<br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br> POSTGIS="3.1.7 aafe1ff" [EXTENSION] PGSQL="120" GEOS="3.8.2-CAPI-1.13.4" PROJ="Rel. 5.2.0, September 15th, 2018" GDAL="GDAL 2.4.4, released 2020/01/08" LIBXML="2.9.1" LIBJSON="0.13.1" LIBPROTOBUF="1.3.2" WAGYU="0.5.0 (Internal)" RASTER (raster lib from "2.5.5 r0" need upgrade) [UNPACKAGED!] (raster procs from "2.5.2 r17328" need upgrade)<br>(1 row)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>No luck.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>->jvp<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 5:30 PM Roxanne Reid-Bennett <<a href="mailto:rox@tara-lu.com">rox@tara-lu.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p>Jim,<o:p></o:p></p><p>We did a series of updates from 10.17 through to 13+ with Postgis some time back on AWS. I just pulled up the notes from the dry run<o:p></o:p></p><p>SELECT PostGIS_Extensions_Upgrade();<o:p></o:p></p><p>does apply to "all the pieces and parts". It wasn't uncommon for it to say Raster (Topology, etc) wasn't available, especially when it wasn't installed.<o:p></o:p></p><p>There was one time where running <o:p></o:p></p><p>SELECT PostGIS_Extensions_Upgrade();<o:p></o:p></p><p>followed by <o:p></o:p></p><p>select postgis_full_version();<o:p></o:p></p><p>indicated we had to run the Extensions Upgrade AGAIN.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Based on your research, it does sound like something may have been deleted "not using" the AWS/Postgis packaged tools. I don't know the internals of PostGis enough to even guess.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Can you maybe create a new v 12 database with Postgis and Rastor installed.. and look in the extension there to see what might be missing in your main DB?<o:p></o:p></p><p>Roxanne<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 1/23/2023 4:03 PM, Raj Talati wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>You tried to do upgrade the extension it might be case that the current old extension was not upgraded . Alter extension PostGis update and then you can retry upgrade.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I guess whoever did PG 12 upgrade not did alter extension Postgis update and when now you trying that missed prior is giving error.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Most likely this the case. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Good luck<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jim VanPeursem <a href="mailto:jvp@jvp.llc" target="_blank"><jvp@jvp.llc></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Greetings,<br><br>[originally posted on pgsql-admin, but referred here]<br><br>I recently took over the management of a postgresql + postgis db on aws rds. Given the age of this project, the db itself is probably ~7-8 years old. It is currently on v12.12 and I'm unable to upgrade it to 13+. The db does use postgis, but as far as I can tell, no raster or topology or other postgis-related fields/features.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>When I try to upgrade on aws, I get the following error:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>The instance could not be upgraded because there are one or more databases with an older version of PostGIS extension or its dependent extensions (address_standardizer, address_standardizer_data_us, postgis_tiger_geocoder, postgis_topology, postgis_raster) installed.<br>Please upgrade all installations of PostGIS and drop its dependent extensions and try again.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>SELECT postgis_full_version(); gives the following (reformatted for clarity):<o:p></o:p></p><div style='margin-left:30.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal> POSTGIS="3.1.7 aafe1ff" [EXTENSION]<br> PGSQL="120"<br> GEOS="3.8.2-CAPI-1.13.4"<br> PROJ="Rel. 5.2.0, September 15th, 2018"<br> GDAL="GDAL 2.4.4, released 2020/01/08"<br> LIBXML="2.9.1"<br> LIBJSON="0.13.1"<br> LIBPROTOBUF="1.3.2"<br> WAGYU="0.5.0 (Internal)"<br> RASTER (raster lib from "2.5.5 r0" need upgrade) [UNPACKAGED!] (raster procs from "2.5.2 r17328" need upgrade)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Note that it lists RASTER both as being unpackaged and needing an upgrade, even though postgis_raster is apparently not installed. My thinking is that somewhere along the way, postgis_raster and possibly topology were installed and later uninstalled (perhaps after being unbundled?).<br><br>For more clues, I issued the following command. For clarity I replace the account numbers with pseudo-usernames for clarity. Also note that schema_1 and schema_2 are two schemas that the project uses.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>db=> select a.extname, a.extowner, a.extnamespace, a.extversion, b.nspname, b.nspowner from pg_catalog.pg_extension a, pg_namespace b where a.extname LIKE '%postgis%';<br> extname | extowner | extnamespace | extversion | nspname | nspowner<br> ---------+------------+--------------+------------+--------------------+----------<br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | pg_toast | <rdsadmin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | pg_temp_1 | <rdsadmin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | pg_toast_temp_1 | <rdsadmin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | pg_catalog | <rdsadmin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | information_schema | <rdsadmin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | extensions | <local_admin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | schema_1 | <local_admin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | my_new_topo | <local_admin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | tiger | <local_admin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | tiger_data | <local_admin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | topology | <local_admin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | schema_2 | <local_admin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | public | <local_admin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | pg_temp_4 | <rdsadmin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | pg_toast_temp_4 | <rdsadmin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | pg_temp_5 | <rdsadmin><br> postgis | <rdsadmin> | 16404 | 3.1.7 | pg_toast_temp_5 | <rdsadmin></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I'm not familiar enough with postgresql nor postgis to understand whether the nspname entries for tiger, topology, etc. are expected, or offer clues as to the problem that I am encountering.<br><br>Some things that I've tried:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>db=> SELECT postgis_extensions_upgrade();<br>NOTICE: Extension postgis_raster is not available or not packagable for some reason<br>NOTICE: Extension postgis_topology is not available or not packagable for some reason<br>NOTICE: Extension postgis_tiger_geocoder is not available or not packagable for some reason<br> postgis_extensions_upgrade<br>-------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Upgrade completed, run SELECT postgis_full_version(); for details</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Also:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>db=> select * from pg_available_extensions where name like 'postgis%';<br> name | default_version | installed_version | comment<br>------------------------+-----------------+-------------------+------------------------------------------------------------<br> postgis | 3.1.7 | 3.1.7 | PostGIS geometry and geography spatial types and functions<br> postgis_tiger_geocoder | 3.1.7 | | PostGIS tiger geocoder and reverse geocoder<br> postgis_topology | 3.1.7 | | PostGIS topology spatial types and functions<br> postgis_raster | 3.1.7 | | PostGIS raster types and functions<br>(4 rows)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>And:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>db=> \dx<br> List of installed extensions<br> Name | Version | Schema | Description<br>---------------+---------+------------+---------------------------------------------------------------------<br> fuzzystrmatch | 1.1 | extensions | determine similarities and distance between strings<br> plpgsql | 1.0 | pg_catalog | PL/pgSQL procedural language<br> postgis | 3.1.7 | extensions | PostGIS geometry, geography, and raster spatial types and functions<br> sslinfo | 1.2 | public | information about SSL certificates<br>(4 rows)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>And:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>db=> CREATE EXTENSION postgis_raster;<br>ERROR: PostGIS Raster is already installed in schema 'extensions'<br>CONTEXT: PL/pgSQL function inline_code_block line 10 at RAISE</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>And:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>db=> DROP EXTENSION postgis_raster;<br>ERROR: extension "postgis_raster" does not exist</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I also did a snapshot backup and restored to a new instance on aws, and this resulted in exactly the same problem on the new instance.<br><br>Erik Weinhold from the pgsql-admin mailing list helpfully pointed out the following:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Could be that someone "uninstalled" them by deleting from pg_extension. Deleting from pg_extension reproduces the error:<br><br> test=# create extension postgis_raster;<br> CREATE EXTENSION<br> test=# delete from pg_extension where extname = 'postgis_raster';<br> DELETE 1<br> test=# drop extension postgis_raster;<br> ERROR: extension "postgis_raster" does not exist<br> test=# create extension postgis_raster;<br> ERROR: PostGIS Raster is already installed in schema 'public'<br> CONTEXT: PL/pgSQL function inline_code_block line 10 at RAISE<br><br>That last error message does not come from checking pg_extension but rather<br>postgis_raster itself[2].<br><br>I tried DROP SCHEMA extensions CASCADE at this point to get rid of the<br>remaining objects but that fails:<br><br> test=# drop schema extensions cascade;<br> ERROR: cache lookup failed for extension 27232<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Is there a way to either restore or remove the unbundled / partial raster support so that it can be upgraded? Does anyone have other suggestions on what I could try? I'd like to get to postgresql v13+ with only postgis (no raster, topology, etc.) installed without losing any data along the journey. Is my only recourse to do a full data backup to sql followed by creating a new instance and restoring data?<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>->jvp<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>postgis-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>postgis-users mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>postgis-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><br>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>______________________________<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jim VanPeursem, PhD<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://jvpcoaching.com/" target="_blank">http://jvp.llc</a>/<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>us: +1 847 414 2759 (+ WhatsApp) -- skype: jimvanpeursem</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i>Bringing clarity and helping you go from where you are to where you want to be</i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>