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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Amro wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>> PROJCS["DHDN / Germany zone 4",<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>> ...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'>> ... PARAMETER["central_meridian",12], …<br>
> </span>...</font><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'>> EPSG=31495<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>That’s not consistent. Zone 4 is indeed the one
with central meridian 12,<br>
but as Jose wrote, the EPSG code should be one of <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'>> epsg: 31464 # DHDN / 3-degree Gauss
zone 4 (deprecated)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'>> epsg: 31468 # DHDN / 3-degree
Gauss-Kruger zone 4<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>However, strangely enough, there is a third,
semi-possible code<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>epsg: 31494 “DHDN / <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Germany</st1:place></st1:country-region> zone 4”
(deleted)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>but note that it should end with 94, not 95, for zone
4.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>More generally, to handle EPSG codes 31491 to 31495,
you must turn the 9 upside down!<br>
But this is not an old typo. The codes with 9s used to be the EPSG codes for
the German<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>zones, but they were deprecated in the olden days
when EPSG had the unfortunate habit<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>of deleting erroneous entries from the database. (This
was the practice before July 2001;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>see <a href="http://www.epsg.org/guides/docs/G7-1.pdf">http://www.epsg.org/guides/docs/G7-1.pdf</a>
, footnote on p. 33).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I think the reason at the time for
deprecating/deleting them, was only to change the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>names, replacing “<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on">Germany</st1:country-region></st1:place>” by “3-degree
Gauss”. Possibly also to correct the grammar<br>
error in the datum name (your WKT has Deutsche instead of Deutsches in the
datum<br>
name). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>But ESRI continued to support the deleted codes ( <a
href="http://support.esri.de/files/support/FAQs.pdf">http://support.esri.de/files/support/FAQs.pdf</a>
),<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>so you can still see them used, even though they are
no longer in the EPSG database.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>They are not supported by Proj.4 or listed on
spatialreference.org. Hm, I wonder if supporting<br>
them could be a violation of EPSG Terms of Use, paragraph 6.7: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
9.5pt;font-family:Verdana'>> 6.7. No data that has been modified other than
as permitted in these Terms of Use shall be attributed to the EPSG Dataset.</span></font><font
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Anyway, in 2001, the EPSG codes 31461 to 31465 were
deprecated, too. Code 31461, zone 1, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>was deprecated because “ProjCRS zone not used”,
and wasn’t replaced until much later. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Codes 31462 to 31465, zones 2 to 5, were deprecated
because “ProjCRS related to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>inappropriate Coordinate system resulting in
incorrect axes and name”, and replaced<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>with EPSG codes 31466 to 31469. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> (The deprecated entries were assigned the axes
Easting (X) and Northing (Y)<br>
in that order, so they are right-handed systems. The corrected entries have the
axes <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Northing (X) and Easting (Y) in that order, so they
are left handed systems, and X goes north.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Poor little zone 1 wasn’t rehabilitated until July
2011, when epsg:5520 was added,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>which is also as a left-handed system with Northing
(X) followed by Easting (Y). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Finally, early in 2012, new right-handed variants of
all these systems were reintroduced<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>(EPSG Change Request 2011.104), but the new ones are not
yet in Proj.4 or spatialreference.org.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>In the new right-handed variants, the axes are
abbreviated E and N instead of X and Y. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>epsg:5676 “DHDN / 3-degree Gauss-Kruger zone
2 (E-N)”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>epsg:5677 “DHDN / 3-degree Gauss-Kruger zone
3 (E-N)”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>epsg:5678 “DHDN / 3-degree Gauss-Kruger zone
4 (E-N)”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>epsg:5679 “DHDN / 3-degree Gauss-Kruger zone
5 (E-N)”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>epsg:5680 “DHDN / 3-degree Gauss-Kruger zone
1 (E-N)”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Mikael Rittri<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Carmenta<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Sweden<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>http://www.carmenta.com<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
proj-bounces@lists.maptools.org [mailto:proj-bounces@lists.maptools.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jose Gonçalves<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> den 7 maj 2012 15:21<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> PROJ.4 and general Projections
Discussions<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Proj] Using EPSG
codes with cs2cs</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi<br>
<br>
Are you sure of EPSG code 31495? In my epsg file, installed with proj, I can
find only:<br>
<br>
epsg: 31461 # DHDN / 3-degree Gauss zone 1 (deprecated)<br>
epsg: 31462 # DHDN / 3-degree Gauss zone 2 (deprecated)<br>
epsg: 31463 # DHDN / 3-degree Gauss zone 3 (deprecated)<br>
epsg: 31464 # DHDN / 3-degree Gauss zone 4 (deprecated)<br>
epsg: 31465 # DHDN / 3-degree Gauss zone 5 (deprecated)<br>
epsg: 5520 # DHDN / 3-degree Gauss-Kruger zone 1<br>
epsg: 31466 # DHDN / 3-degree Gauss-Kruger zone 2<br>
epsg: 31467 # DHDN / 3-degree Gauss-Kruger zone 3<br>
epsg: 31468 # DHDN / 3-degree Gauss-Kruger zone 4<br>
epsg: 31469 # DHDN / 3-degree Gauss-Kruger zone 5<br>
<br>
If a projection ID is not in the file the expected answer is the one you got.
It is not a configuration problem.<br>
Check <a href="http://spatialreference.org">http://spatialreference.org</a> to
check the epsg code<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Jose Gonçalves<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2012/5/7 rps_rt <<a href="mailto:ec_eng01@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ec_eng01@yahoo.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Dear Warmerdam and all members,<br>
<br>
I have been browsing and reading for a while to convert my coordinates with<br>
no hope until finding this Proj. 4.<br>
<br>
Kindly, I seek your support here ... I am using Linux Ubuntu to convert from<br>
long/lat (WGS84) to Cartesian (x/y) and vice versa. My need here is to get<br>
as accurate as possible results (cm-level if possible).<br>
<br>
I was reading this thread because I had a problem of getting a cs2cs results<br>
for espg=31495, while I could get them for espg=31468. But the conversion<br>
results with the later one were not accurate ~ almost 100 meters away.<br>
<br>
e.g.,: echo "13.755944 51.054555" | cs2cs +init=epsg:4326 +to<br>
+init=epsg:31468<br>
<br>
but when I change it to: echo "13.755944 51.054555" | cs2cs
+init=epsg:4326<br>
+to +init=epsg:31495,<br>
I get the message "projection initialization failure cause: no options
found<br>
in 'init' file".<br>
<br>
I tried to change something based on this thread, to make sure that my<br>
PROJ_LIB path is in place, but it seems I ruined everything. Afterwards, all<br>
espg zones gave the below error:<br>
"<br>
pj_open_lib(epsg): call fopen(/usr/local/bin/cs2cs/epsg) - failed<br>
Using from definition: init=epsg:31467<br>
Rel. 4.8.0, 6 March 2012<br>
<cs2cs>:<br>
projection initialization cause: no system list, errno: 20<br>
"<br>
<br>
I tried to "make uninstall" and "make install" but nothing
was fixed!!<br>
<br>
Here are more details about my project:<br>
<br>
My locations are in Dresden city, Germany, (DHDN4), and I have (I assume)<br>
all what is needed to get my coordinates converted accurately, but no idea<br>
how to process them in Proj. 4 (I am totally new here):<br>
<br>
PROJCS["DHDN / Germany zone<br>
4",GEOGCS["DHDN",DATUM["Deutsche_Hauptdreiecksnetz",<br>
SPHEROID["Bessel
1841",6377397.155,299.1528128]],PRIMEM["Greenwich",0],<br>
UNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433]],PROJECTION["Transverse_Mercator"],<br>
PARAMETER["latitude_of_origin",0],PARAMETER["central_meridian",12],<br>
PARAMETER["scale_factor",1],PARAMETER["false_easting",4500000],<br>
PARAMETER["false_northing",0],UNIT["metre",1]]<br>
TOWGS84=582.0,105.0,414.0,5.042e-6,1.696e-6,-1.4932e-5,8.3<br>
EPSG=31495<br>
<br>
%Seven parameters:<br>
% 582.00 - Translation dx in meter to WGS84<br>
% 105.0 - Translation dy in meter to WGS84<br>
% 414.50 - Translation dz in meter to WGS84<br>
% 5.042e-6 - Rotation ro (omega) in Radiant to WGS84<br>
% 1.696e-6 - Rotation rf (phi) in radiant to WGS84<br>
% -1.4932e-5 - Rotation rk (Kappa) in Radiant to WGS84<br>
% 8.3e-06 - Mapscale factor in ppm (parts per million) to WGS84(m)<br>
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Sorry for the long thread but did not want to miss any details, even in my<br>
first ever thread in this forum.<br>
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I will be looking forward to reading form you.<br>
Best regards,<br>
Amro<br>
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