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    <p>Thanks Doug, you have pointed me to Matt Higgins who is one of
      the Australians on this email's CC list. He has contributed toward
      identifying this problem. I believe we need to bring this
      conversation into an international forum, probably headed up by
      the OGC.</p>
    <p>You might be able to suggest who we should connect with? <br>
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    <p>Warm regards, Cameron<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/6/19 11:30 pm, Newcomb, Doug
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      <div dir="ltr">Cameron,
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            <div>Hi folks,<br>
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              Our Australian spatial data users are about to face a
              systematic mismatch challenge when trying to use multiple
              static datums (GDA2020, GDA94) with the dynamic datum
              (WGS84). At the moment, it is government agencies
              grappling with the problem, but it is about to become a
              mainstream issue.<br>
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              Australia now has static datums for the years 1994 and
              2020 and uses WGS84 (a time-dependent datum!), for
              web-mapping and web-services.  We recognise:<br>
              1. Transforming from GDA94 to GDA2020 reflects Australia’s
              tectonic movement of ~ 1.8 metres to the North East.<br>
              2. GDA94 was defined as ‘equal to WGS84’ in 1994.<br>
              3. GDA2020  was defined as ‘equal to WGS84’ in 2020.<br>
              All three statements can’t be accurate. It results in
              mis-aligned maps in WGS84<br>
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              I believe this is a problem the whole world needs to
              address, given the upcoming modernsation of significant
              national datums including the U.S and we need to bring
              this topic into an international conversation, ASAP.<br>
              I'm interested to know if anyone here is looking into
              and/or has opinions on how it should be solved. I'd like
              to incorporate your ideas into the recommendations that we
              are putting foward.<br>
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                                <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Cameron
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                      <div>Doug Newcomb - Cartographer</div>
                      <div>USFWS</div>
                      <div>551F Pylon Dr</div>
                      <div>Raleigh, NC</div>
                      <div>919-856-4520 ext. 14 <a
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Cameron Shorter
Technology Demystifier
Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant

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