<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Even,</div><div>back to the topic I have an additional question. Please see below, inline.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 4:13 PM Even Rouault <<a href="mailto:even.rouault@spatialys.com">even.rouault@spatialys.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">Daniele,</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> so sorry in advance if I ask something obvious.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">There's nothing is obvious in this area :-)</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> Operation No. 2:</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> EPSG:9275, GHA height to EVRF2000 Austria height (1), 0.05 m, Austria</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> PROJ string:</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> Error when exporting to PROJ string: Unimplemented</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> WKT2:2019 string:</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> COORDINATEOPERATION[".... long WKT here...."]</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> What that PROJ Error means? Will it not be able to do the transform?</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">Yes, you need PROJ master (future 7.1.0) for that, as the mapping for Austrian vertical methods to PROJ, and the transformation of original files to GeoTIFF, has been done just recently.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> Then, I tried combining 2DCRS + VerticalCRS:</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> projinfo -s "EPSG:31255+5778" -t "EPSG:3035+9274"</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> And I get again 2 candidate operations and long PROJ and WKT Strings.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> Now, when I try cs2cs to transform a coordinate I'm getting this:</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> cs2cs "EPSG:31255+5778" "EPSG:3035+9274"</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> 88000 273000 600</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> Results into:</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> * * inf</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">Yes, failure to transform due to the above issue.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">With PROJ master, I now get a result, but no change in vertical value. The reason is that the point is outside of the grid (it is 45d52'39.123"N 16d50'57.28"E, but the minimum latitude of the Austrian grids is ~ 46d20'), and thus a ballpark vertical (=null) transformation is applied</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> Not really sure what it means. :-(</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> If I try a different vertical CRS</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> cs2cs "EPSG:31255+5778" "EPSG:3035+5621"</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> 88000 273000 600</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> Results into:</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> 2553923.81 4852657.42 600.00</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> So, at least the 2D coordinates get properly transformed but the elevation</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> seems unchanged, therefore I'm not sure how it works.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">Same as above</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> *pj_open_lib(at_bev_AT_GIS_GRID.tif): call</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> fopen(/opt/conda/pkgs/proj-data-1.0-1/share/proj/at_bev_AT_GIS_GRID.tif) -</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> succeededpj_open_lib(GV_HoehenGrid_V1.csv): call</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> fopen(/opt/conda/pkgs/proj-data-1.0-1/share/proj/GV_HoehenGrid_V1.csv) -</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> succeededpj_open_lib(GV_Hoehengrid_plus_Geoid_V3.csv): call</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> fopen(/opt/conda/pkgs/proj-data-1.0-1/share/proj/GV_Hoehengrid_plus_Geoid_V3</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> .csv) - succeededUnrecognized vertical grid formatvgridshift: could not find</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> required grid(s).Pipeline: Bad step definition: inv (failed to load datum</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> shift file)*</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">Yes, in PROJ 7.0, there's no mapping between the .csv files referenced by PROJ master and the converted GeoTIFF file.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> That being said, I git cloned the PROJ repo and I have a couple of</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> questions:</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> - how the vertical shift get actually computed when grid shift files are</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> available?</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> I mean, I suppose that when finding a grid_transformation entry in the EPSG</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> DB and looking for the vertical_offset_file associated to a file, it will</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> somehow load that file and use it for a kind of interpolation/pixel query</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> but I didn't figure out where this happens in the code (checking a bit the</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> vgridshift.cpp as well as coordinateoperation.cpp).</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"></p></div></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-family:monospace;font-size:9pt;font-weight:400;font-style:normal"><p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">Addition/subtraction of the grid value, using bilinear interpolation. </p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure to have fully understood how the bilinear interpolation is being used in this process.</div><div>Could you please do an example?</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Daniele</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-family:monospace;font-size:9pt;font-weight:400;font-style:normal"><p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">You spotted the right entry points. grids.cpp as well is relevant.</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> - Does it support at the same time csv / tiffs / gtx? (If so, I didn't</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">> manage to find where it eventually loads them)</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">CSV files aren't directly supported. TIFF and GTX are supported, provided that there's a mapping between the original name found in EPSG and a PROJ supported file:</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"><a href="https://github.com/OSGeo/PROJ/blob/master/data/sql/grid_alternatives.sql" target="_blank">https://github.com/OSGeo/PROJ/blob/master/data/sql/grid_alternatives.sql</a></p>
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<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px">Even</p>
<p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"> </p>
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