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<p>Hi Javier,</p>
<p>funny a few months ago, I tweeted about that to get help from the
Argentinian community but that didn't lead to anywhere. And just a
couple days ago, I tried to reach someone who seemed to have been
related to Geoide-Ar16 but didn't hear back.</p>
<p>The clause "Se debe compartir de manera libre y gratuita." (<span
class="VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="JLqJ4b ChMk0b"
data-language-for-alternatives="en"
data-language-to-translate-into="es" data-phrase-index="2"><span>"
It must be shared freely and for free."</span></span></span>
with free meaning costless here) is problematic as open data
licenses must allow for commercial use.</p>
<p>I'm afraid we'd need a contact within IGN Argentina that has
sufficient determination and influence internally so they can
adopt a commonly used open data license. Probably pointing that
many other geodetic agencies already do that could help.</p>
<p>Hint: if there are international instances/forums where national
agencies collaborate together, it would be good if someone from
this list that can speak in such forums could give an awareness
talk about the importance of using open data licensing :-)<br>
</p>
<p>Even<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 02/05/2021 à 12:56, Javier Jimenez
Shaw a écrit :<br>
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<div>I found that Argentina had published a geoid file for their
geoid model "GEOIDE-Ar16". <a
href="https://www.ign.gob.ar/NuestrasActividades/Geodesia/Geoide-Ar16"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ign.gob.ar/NuestrasActividades/Geodesia/Geoide-Ar16</a></div>
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<div>In EPSG everything is already registered:</div>
<div>- Vertical CRS: "SRVN16 height" EPSG:9255</div>
<div>- Geographic CRS: "<span
style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-size:13px">POSGAR 2007"
EPSG:</span><span style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-size:13px">5340
(2D) , EPSG:</span><span
style="color:rgb(48,48,48);font-size:13px">5342 (3D)</span></div>
<div>- Compound CRS: "POSGAR 2007 + SRVN16 height" EPSG:9521</div>
<div>- Transformations:</div>
<div> "POSGAR 2007 to SRVN16 height (1)" EPSG:9256</div>
<div> "POSGAR 2007 to POSGAR 2007 + SRVN16 height (1)"
EPSG:9621</div>
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<div>The "only missing piece" is the License:</div>
<div><a
href="https://www.ign.gob.ar/NuestrasActividades/Geodesia/Geoide-Ar16/calculadora"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ign.gob.ar/NuestrasActividades/Geodesia/Geoide-Ar16/calculadora</a>
(click at the bottom in "Términos y Condiciones").</div>
<div>Their summary is<br>
"- Debe reconocerse la autoría del Instituto Geográfico
Nacional de la República Argentina.<br>
- Se debe compartir de manera libre y gratuita.<br>
- Se permite su uso comercial únicamente en el caso de obras
derivadas en que la información sea utilizada como insumo para
generar un nuevo producto.<br>
- El IGN no se responsabiliza por las consecuencias de la
utilización de la información descargada."</div>
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<div>I have already asked them if they can publish it with an
standard open license to include it in PROJ. They answered
that they consider a good initiative to include it in PROJ,
but unfortunately it has only their license from the IGN. <br>
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<div>"Nos parece muy buena la iniciativa de incluir GEOIDE-Ar16
dentro de la librería PROJ, pero lamentablemente por el
momento el producto tiene asociado el licenciamiento genérico
y propio del IGN, el cual puede consultar el texto completo de
los términos y condiciones dentro de <a
href="https://www.ign.gob.ar/NuestrasActividades/Geodesia/Geoide-Ar16/calculadora"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ign.gob.ar/NuestrasActividades/Geodesia/Geoide-Ar16/calculadora</a>
(debajo de todo)."</div>
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<div>What do we do now? I am not a lawyer.</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Javier<br clear="all">
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