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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I support:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span lang="EN-GB">Cameron’s own suggestion on supporting time-dependent transformations,
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kristian’s suggestion to stop using webmercator, and
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Greg’s suggestion to stop using WGS84 (EPSG:4326).<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I would like to add to:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Start promoting the use of an application-independent way to link to a location like
</span><a href="geo:37.786971,-122.399677;u=35"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#3366BB">geo:37.786971,-122.399677;u=35</span></a><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">
<span lang="EN-GB">(<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geo_URI_scheme">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geo_URI_scheme</a>) by the general public instead of their own links like
<a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@37.786971,-122.399677,14z">https://www.google.com/maps/@37.786971,-122.399677,14z</a> or
<a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/37.786971,-122.399677">https://www.google.com/maps/search/37.786971,-122.399677</a><o:p></o:p></span></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Support other CRSs using EPSG and PROJ<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Jochem <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> PROJ <proj-bounces@lists.osgeo.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kristian Evers<br>
<b>Sent:</b> maandag 22 augustus 2022 15:30<br>
<b>To:</b> Luís Moreira de Sousa <luis.de.sousa@protonmail.ch><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cameron Shorter via PROJ <proj@lists.osgeo.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [PROJ] Pitching the proj project to Google's Geo team<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;background:#F0F0F0">Deze e-mail is afkomstig van buiten de organisatie</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">From my view point, a major contribution Google could have to the FOSS4G world would be to put the Mercator projection to rest once and for all. They are largely responsible for reviving it, when it is now wholly outdated.
Instead of triggering a new wave of innovation in geography, web mapping technologies pioneered by Google in fact propelled a regression of several centuries in global mapping.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">I think hydrographic offices across the world would like to have a word with
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">you on the relevance of the Mercator projection. But the abomination that is<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">the Webmercator shouldn't have made its entrance in the first place. We have<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">Google to thank for that but had they not been first movers with Google Earth/Maps<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">someone else is likely to have made a similar thing. The actual implementation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">isn't particularly great from a geodetic stand-point but it does solve the problem<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">of displaying a global map in a sensible way. The most recent incarnation of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">Google Maps uses a globe when zooming out far enough and that technology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">would be great to see shared with the rest of the community. PROJ can certainly<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">play a role in that but I think OpenLayers and similar projects have a larger role in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">I don't know if the broader community is aware of it but we do have a lot of
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">contributions from Google already. Both in terms of actual code from Kurt Schwehr<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB">(possibly others, too) as well as the OSS-Fuzz testing facility.
</span>Of course more is always<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm">welcome :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-msoplaintext" style="margin:0cm"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">/Kristian <o:p></o:p></p>
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