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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 30/05/2023 à 19:24, Nicolas
      Bellaiche a écrit :<br>
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        <div>Ok, i kind of fixed my issue even if that's not all very
          clear to me. </div>
        <div>One of the things that I can't understand is that outdated
          "+init="</div>
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        <div>For instance if I try to use</div>
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              style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"
              data-mce-style="font-variant-ligatures:
              no-common-ligatures;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>echo
              2d20\'11.5\"E<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>46d47\'59.775\"N
              <span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>|<span
                class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>./bin/proj<span
                class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>IGNF:LAMBE -S<span
                style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
                font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="font-family: arial,
                helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> without the</span>
              +init= syntax<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica,
                sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"
                data-mce-style="font-family: arial, helvetica,
                sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> I get</span></span></p>
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              style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"
              data-mce-style="font-variant-ligatures:
              no-common-ligatures;"><br data-mce-bogus="1">
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              style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"
              data-mce-style="font-variant-ligatures:
              no-common-ligatures;">proj_create: unrecognized format /
              unknown name</span></p>
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              style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"
              data-mce-style="font-variant-ligatures:
              no-common-ligatures;">Rel. 9.1.1, December 1st, 2022</span></p>
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              style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"
              data-mce-style="font-variant-ligatures:
              no-common-ligatures;"><proj>:<span
                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
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            normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal;
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            color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" data-mce-style="margin: 0px;
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            normal; font-family: Menlo; color: #000000;"><span
              style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"
              data-mce-style="font-variant-ligatures:
              no-common-ligatures;">projection initialization failure</span></p>
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              style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"
              data-mce-style="font-variant-ligatures:
              no-common-ligatures;">cause: Invalid PROJ string syntax</span></p>
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            normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal;
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              style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"
              data-mce-style="font-variant-ligatures:
              no-common-ligatures;">program abnormally terminated</span></p>
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              style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"
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              no-common-ligatures;"><br data-mce-bogus="1">
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              style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"
              data-mce-style="font-variant-ligatures:
              no-common-ligatures;">Is it normal?</span></p>
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    <p>Maybe? the old proj utility works with coordinate operations,
      actually only map projections, but not CRS definitions. In PROJ
      4.x era, there was no such distinction. IGNF:LAMBE is a CRS
      definition now. Furthermore the proj utility has not been updated
      to resolve objects by code/names. (with the +init= prefix, proj
      errors out with "can't initialize operations that take non-angular
      input coordinates" for me. likely some mismatch between radian vs
      degree input expectations). I presume it could be enhanced to work
      with projected CRS definitions, although it is not totally clear
      to me what should be the expectations regarding input/output axis
      order.<br>
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    <p>Even<br>
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      cite="mid:889940692.8524263.1685467485664.JavaMail.zimbra@ign.fr">
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              style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"
              data-mce-style="font-variant-ligatures:
              no-common-ligatures;">Sincerely,</span></p>
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              no-common-ligatures;"><br data-mce-bogus="1">
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            normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal;
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            color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" data-mce-style="margin: 0px;
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              style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"
              data-mce-style="font-variant-ligatures:
              no-common-ligatures;">N.B.</span></p>
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        <div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>De: </b>"Even Rouault"
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:even.rouault@spatialys.com"><even.rouault@spatialys.com></a><br>
          <b>À: </b>"Nicolas Bellaiche"
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nicolas.bellaiche@ign.fr"><nicolas.bellaiche@ign.fr></a><br>
          <b>Cc: </b>"proj" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:proj@lists.osgeo.org"><proj@lists.osgeo.org></a><br>
          <b>Envoyé: </b>Mardi 30 Mai 2023 14:43:03<br>
          <b>Objet: </b>Re: [PROJ] Migrating to PROJ-9<br>
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          <p>Weird indeed:<br>
          </p>
          <p>and what about trying directly the pipeline with cct :</p>
          <p>echo 652760.73700000 7033791.24300000 43.64200000 | cct
            +proj=pipeline +step +inv +proj=lcc +lat_0=46.5 +lon_0=3
            +lat_1=44 +lat_2=49 +x_0=700000 +y_0=6600000 +ellps=GRS80
            +step +proj=cart +ellps=GRS80<br>
          </p>
          <p>you should get:</p>
          <p> 4070327.2514    166078.9321  4891298.6149           inf<br>
            <br>
          </p>
          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 30/05/2023 à 14:35, Nicolas
            Bellaiche a écrit :<br>
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style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )">Bonjour M. Rouault,</p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )"><strong><br>
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                    face="Menlo"><span
                      style="font-weight:normal;font-size:11px">Voilà ce
                      que </span><span style="font-size:11px">j'obtiens:</span></font></p>
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style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )"><strong><br>
                  </strong></p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )"><strong>PROJ9:</strong></p>
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style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )"><strong><br>
                  </strong></p>
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style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )"><strong>Release % PROJ_DEBUG=3 projinfo
                    -s IGNF:LAMB93 -t IGNF:RGF93 -o PROJ</strong></p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 );min-height:13px"><br>
                </p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 );min-height:13px"><br>
                </p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )">pj_open_lib(proj.ini): call
fopen(/Users/nbellaiche/dev/sd-externs/macosx-clang/proj-9.1.1/nad/proj.ini)
                  - succeeded</p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )">pj_open_lib(proj.db): call
fopen(/Users/nbellaiche/dev/sd-externs/macosx-clang/proj-9.1.1/nad/proj.db)
                  - succeeded</p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )">Candidate operations found: 1</p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )">-------------------------------------</p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )">Operation No. 1:</p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 );min-height:13px"><br>
                </p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )">unknown id, Inverse of LAMBERT-93 +
                  Conversion from RGF93 geographiques (dms) to RGF93
                  cartesiennes geocentriques, 0 m, World</p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 );min-height:13px"><br>
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                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )">PROJ string:</p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )">+proj=pipeline</p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )"><span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>+step
                  +inv +proj=lcc +lat_0=46.5 +lon_0=3 +lat_1=44
                  +lat_2=49 +x_0=700000</p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )"><span class="Apple-converted-space">     
                      </span>+y_0=6600000 +ellps=GRS80</p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )"><span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>+step
                  +proj=cart +ellps=GRS80</p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )"><br>
                </p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )"><br>
                </p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )"><strong> Release % echo 652760.73700000
                    7033791.24300000 43.64200000 | cs2cs
                    +init=IGNF:LAMB93 +to +init=IGNF:RGF93</strong></p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )">4070355.05<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>166080.07
                  4891332.24</p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )"><br>
                </p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )"><br>
                </p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )"><strong> Release % echo $PROJ_DATA</strong></p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )">/Users/nbellaiche/dev/sd-externs/macosx-clang/proj-9.1.1/nad</p>
                <p
style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';color:rgb(
                  0 , 0 , 0 )"><br>
                </p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo'"><strong> Release
                    % echo $PROJ_LIB</strong></p>
                <p style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo'">/Users/nbellaiche/dev/sd-externs/macosx-clang/proj-9.1.1/nad</p>
                <p style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo'"><br>
                </p>
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);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo'"><br>
                </p>
                <p style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo'">je
                  ne vois pas de différence. Je n'ai pas le début d'une
                  idée de comment identifier le problème...</p>
                <p style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo'"><br>
                </p>
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);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo'">N.</p>
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);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo'"><br>
                </p>
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);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo'"><br>
                </p>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <hr id="zwchr">
              <div><b>De: </b>"Even Rouault" <a
                  href="mailto:even.rouault@spatialys.com"
                  target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><even.rouault@spatialys.com></a><br>
                <b>À: </b>"proj" <a href="mailto:proj@lists.osgeo.org"
                  target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><proj@lists.osgeo.org></a><br>
                <b>Envoyé: </b>Vendredi 26 Mai 2023 21:50:27<br>
                <b>Objet: </b>Re: [PROJ] Migrating to PROJ-9<br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p>Ah, and you should avoid using the "+init=" prefix.
                  This is a deprecated legacy syntax that doesn't
                  enforce axis order of the CRS definition (without
                  practical consequence for IGNF: CRS since they use
                  "GIS friendly" axis order)<br>
                </p>
                <p>To help debugging this, please provide the output of:<br>
                </p>
                <p>PROJ_DEBUG=3 projinfo -s IGNF:LAMB93 -t IGNF:RGF93 -o
                  PROJ<br>
                </p>
                <p>On my system I get:<br>
                </p>
                <p>pj_open_lib(proj.ini): call
                  fopen(/home/even/proj/install-proj-master/share/proj/proj.ini)
                  - succeeded<br>
                  pj_open_lib(proj.db): call
                  fopen(/home/even/proj/install-proj-master/share/proj/proj.db)
                  - succeeded<br>
                  Candidate operations found: 1<br>
                  -------------------------------------<br>
                  Operation No. 1:<br>
                  <br>
                  unknown id, Inverse of LAMBERT-93 + Conversion from
                  RGF93 geographiques (dms) to RGF93 cartesiennes
                  geocentriques, 0 m, World<br>
                  <br>
                  PROJ string:<br>
                  +proj=pipeline<br>
                    +step +inv +proj=lcc +lat_0=46.5 +lon_0=3 +lat_1=44
                  +lat_2=49 +x_0=700000<br>
                          +y_0=6600000 +ellps=GRS80<br>
                    +step +proj=cart +ellps=GRS80<br>
                  <br>
                </p>
                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 26/05/2023 à 21:46, Even
                  Rouault a écrit :<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote>
                  <p>Hi,</p>
                  <p>I get the expected 4070327.25 166078.93 4891298.61
                    result with proj 6.0.0, 7.2.1, 9.2.0 and master</p>
                  <p>There's no grid involved in this operation, just
                    inverse LCC projection on the RGF93 datum</p>
                  <p>I also tried to reproduce your issue if the PROJ
                    < 6 IGNF file is found in the PROJ resource
                    path(s) (non nominal situation - this file is not
                    needed any more, and will generally lead to
                    suboptimal results. Its content is included in the
                    proj.db file), but even with that I get the expected
                    result. So no idea why you get wrong results<br>
                  </p>
                  <p>Even</p>
                  <p><br>
                  </p>
                  <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 26/05/2023 à 20:54,
                    Nicolas Bellaiche a écrit :<br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote>
                    <div style="font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' ,
                      sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000">
                      <div>Hi all,</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>I'm migrating my C++ code from PROJ4 to PROJ9
                        and I meet a worrying issue with the
                        computation. Some of my regress tests don't pass
                        so I've tested with cs2cs and gets the same
                        difference:</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo'"><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space">PROJ4</span></p>
                        <p style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo'"><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>echo<span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
                            class="Object"
                            id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT157_com_zimbra_phone"
                            style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none"><a
                              style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">652760.73700000</a></span><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
                            class="Object"
                            id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT158_com_zimbra_phone"
                            style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none"><a
                              style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">7033791.24300000 43</a></span>.64200000
                          | cs2cs +init=IGNF:LAMB93 +to
                          +init=IGNF:RGF93: </p>
                        <p style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo'">4070327.25<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span
                            class="Object"
                            id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT159_com_zimbra_phone"
                            style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none"><a
                              style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">166078.93
                              4891298.61</a></span></p>
                        <p style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';min-height:13px"><br>
                        </p>
                        <p style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo';min-height:13px">PROJ7
                          or PROJ9</p>
                        <p style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo'"><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>echo<span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
                            class="Object"
                            id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT160_com_zimbra_phone"
                            style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none"><a
                              style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">652760.73700000</a></span><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
                            class="Object"
                            id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT161_com_zimbra_phone"
                            style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none"><a
                              style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">7033791.24300000 43</a></span>.64200000
                          | cs2cs +init=IGNF:LAMB93 +to
                          +init=IGNF:RGF93:<span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
                        <p style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo'">4070355.05<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span
                            class="Object"
                            id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT162_com_zimbra_phone"
                            style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none"><a
                              style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">166080.07
                              4891332.24</a></span></p>
                        <p style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo'"><span
                            class="Object"
                            style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none"><br>
                          </span></p>
                        <p style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
);font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:'menlo'"><span
                            class="Object"
                            style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none"><br>
                          </span></p>
                      </div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>I suspect that PROJ7 and PROJ9 don't read
                        properly the geoid file but I'm not sure.
                        Someone can help me tracking and fixing this
                        problem?</div>
                      <div><br>
                        Thanks,</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Nicolas Bellaiche</div>
                      <div>Institut Géographique National France</div>
                    </div>
                    <br>
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                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/proj</a><br>
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