<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Respected Sir,<br><br></div>I have submitted my proposal on melange.<br><br><a href="https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/student/google/gsoc2014/panwar9/5668600916475904">https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/student/google/gsoc2014/panwar9/5668600916475904</a><br>
<br></div><div>@jorge and @jachym Thank you sir for helping me on building a good and "Strong" proposal. <br><br></div><div>@joege, Thanks sir for editing in the time line. Changes lead proposal in a new directions. <br>
<br></div><div>Any comment and suggestion on proposal at melange are most welcomed.<br><br><br></div><div>looking forward to hack this summer in PyWPS.<br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Jorge de Jesus <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jorge.mendesdejesus@wur.nl" target="_blank">jorge.mendesdejesus@wur.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi Naveen<br>
<br>
I've made my last modifications, now is up to you to do any final<br>
adjustments and submit the proposal.<br>
<br>
Naveen, My mother tongue is Latin based so some of the English<br>
prepositions that you use sound a bit strange to me and I tend to use a<br>
bit more abstract sentences, PLEASE read the text and see if it makes<br>
sense to you.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Jorge<br>
</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
On 03/18/2014 09:47 PM, Jachym Cepicky wrote:<br>
> Naveen, I let you some comments in the chat of the document - hope, you can<br>
> reach it.<br>
><br>
> Generally speaking, the proposal seems very nice, looking forward to get your<br>
> project selected :)<br>
><br>
> Jachym<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 02:51:16AM +0530, Naveen Panwar wrote:<br>
>> Respected Sir,<br>
>> I have updated the proposal on drive. Please go through and suggest<br>
>> changes.<br>
>> Let know me know if it is ok. then I will put proposal in melange.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Jachym Cepicky<br>
>> <[1]<a href="mailto:jachym.cepicky@geosense.cz">jachym.cepicky@geosense.cz</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi,<br>
>><br>
>> Naveen, thank you for your introduction. I also agree, that, if you<br>
>> want, your<br>
>> work should cover all "possible" database storage, which you are feeling<br>
>> would<br>
>> be able to do. Also, during hacking around PyWPS, you will probably face<br>
>> some<br>
>> code, you would want/need to modify as well and you are strongly<br>
>> encouraged to<br>
>> do so - that might take some of your time too.<br>
>><br>
>> Remote storage is about ftp, webdav, dropbox, googl-drive and similar<br>
>> services,<br>
>> which basically do serve in similar manner, like simple file-storage<br>
>> does. But<br>
>> let us not distract your focus too much, you do the database stuff (if<br>
>> you<br>
>> prefer).<br>
>><br>
>> About the "how things are done in open source world" topic: every<br>
>> project is<br>
>> different. I GRASS e.g., everybody is working for himself, with very low<br>
>> interaction. In OpenLayers, the code is carefully watched by others, it<br>
>> has to<br>
>> follow lot's of formal rules to be accepted. In PyWPS, we are somewhere<br>
>> in the<br>
>> middle of those two extremes, but still we should give you an idea of<br>
>> how we<br>
>> work.<br>
>><br>
>> Thank you for joining and thank you, Jorge, to put efforts into this<br>
>><br>
>> J<br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 04:30:23PM +0000, Mendes de Jesus, Jorge wrote:<br>
>> > Hi Naveen<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Good answers and I think we have a lot to offer concerning code<br>
>> development and I believe that you will enjoy learning TDD (Test<br>
>> development driven)<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I've to tell you a story, when I was in university I would prefer to<br>
>> go to bed early and sleep properly instead of doing studying till 4am<br>
>> like my collegues, and then go to the exam.... I saw some of my friends<br>
>> go totally blank during exams by the lack of sleep and then getting a<br>
>> miserable grade because of it. I would prefer to sleep and then wake up<br>
>> at 4am to study LOL<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Anyway,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Yes the PostGIS and Sqlite are more or less the same idea, so they<br>
>> should be together (why are they separated?)<br>
>> ><br>
>> > The FTP and remote storage is more the idea of Soeren (also it is<br>
>> what he needs), the FTP storage implementation was already done on<br>
>> PyWPS3.2 and personally I would prefer to see the all the proposal to<br>
>> be Database oriented, specially the final part concerning NoSQL, the<br>
>> NoSQL is still something a bit novel and I believe that we could<br>
>> connect the final part of NoSQL storage into "future developments" since<br>
>> few projects in OsGEO use NoSQL.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > IF, you still thing that working on the remote storage is a proper<br>
>> topic I will send and email to Soeren to get some feedback and I will<br>
>> change a bit the proposal, since then we have a more generic "storage"<br>
>> proposal<br>
>> ><br>
>> > So, I think that things are going ok just missing a proper timetable.<br>
>> You will do it correct?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Cheers<br>
>> > Jorge<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > ________________________________________<br>
>> > From: Naveen Panwar [[2]<a href="mailto:panwarn09@gmail.com">panwarn09@gmail.com</a>]<br>
>> > Sent: 15 March 2014 06:57<br>
>> > To: Mendes de Jesus, Jorge<br>
>> > Cc: Jachym Cepicky<br>
>> > Subject: Re: [Pywps-dev] [ GSOC 2014 ] Database output storage idea.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Mendes de Jesus, Jorge<br>
>> <[3]<a href="mailto:jorge.mendesdejesus@wur.nl">jorge.mendesdejesus@wur.nl</a><mailto:[4]<a href="mailto:jorge.mendesdejesus@wur.nl">jorge.mendesdejesus@wur.nl</a>>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > Hi Naveen<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I've just sent you a Google doc with a kick start of the Database<br>
>> output storage idea<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I've elaborate the idea a bit in detail and will continue during the<br>
>> weekend.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Please extend it as you see fit<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Naveen, I would like some answers to the following questions, I tend<br>
>> to be very direct so don't fell offended.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 1) What do you expect to learn from the summer school (and from the us<br>
>> )<br>
>> ><br>
>> > My main aim for GSOC is that I want to learn professional style of<br>
>> coding. and<br>
>> > How to write code for development of open source software or any<br>
>> commercial software, To understand how actually development happen in<br>
>> industry.<br>
>> > Till now I have written code only for myself . Writing a code for<br>
>> university course project is way different then how actually happen in<br>
>> real world.<br>
>> > And I don't have this experience till now. That is why I join summer<br>
>> of code.<br>
>> > Hopefully while coding for PyWPS I get to know about all these things<br>
>> in a better manner.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > 2) For what I saw from your work and background, it seems that your IT<br>
>> level is very high. With very interesting research topics, I'm concern<br>
>> that the pypws/database proposal maybe to simple, or not so exciting<br>
>> for your level. Think: Will you be happy doing a simple programming job<br>
>> that is not so IT research oriented????<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Yeah, I have been working in IT research since my graduation years.<br>
>> And I already have pretty much going on with my research.<br>
>> > I joined PyWPS, because of my love for PYTHON. and I always love<br>
>> backhand programming which is there in database proposal. Also PyWPS has<br>
>> small community where scope for me is more.<br>
>> > Also I have noticed in big community like GRASS, QGIS etc.. GSoC<br>
>> project goes to regular developer[ less scope for newbie].<br>
>> > as last year I proposed idea for GRASS but it didn't get selected :(<br>
>> [although last time I was little late too.] .<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I am happy because my motivation for GSOC is not as a programming job.<br>
>> As I said earlier, I have my own reason of doing it.<br>
>> > My guide always said "Keep your work simple and stupid" and I<br>
>> following it.<br>
>> > [of course distance work and money are good reason to make a man<br>
>> happy]<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 3) This is not so much a question...If you are not satisfy with<br>
>> direction and proposal please let us know as soon as possible, and<br>
>> comments,proposals, new ideas are more than welcomes. What I love the<br>
>> most about teaching is that I learn alot from students. So this is<br>
>> actual a 2 way learning :)<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I think we have to do good work on proposal/Idea .<br>
>> > From my past experience, In OSGeo SOC only those Guest Project or<br>
>> Idea got slot for summer of code which are really good and convincing.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > We have to make our proposal strong enough so that OSGeo admins<br>
>> preferred PyWPS Idea over other projects. If they think it is simple and<br>
>> not worth it, then They won't give us slot.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > We have to show them Our idea has scope of 35-40 hours/week work from<br>
>> student side.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I think We should put a combined Idea of all three ideas presented on<br>
>> PyWPS page. [suggestion ??]<br>
>> > i.e. Database output storage - PostGIS, Database output storage -<br>
>> SQLite , Remote output storage.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > And make all of them worth for GSOC project.<br>
>> > I am still working in this direction. don't know how much we have to<br>
>> take from last idea(remote storage).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I am working for project timeline. will send update on that in google<br>
>> doc.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Please correct me If I am going wrong and too far.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Finally, THANK YOU for participating on the PyWPS hangout, I know that<br>
>> 21:00CET is not the most pleasant time for you.<br>
>> > No one sleeps before 2AM while pursuing their graduation. I think we<br>
>> all know it ;)<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Cheers<br>
>> > Jorge<br>
>> ><br>
>> > ________________________________________<br>
>> > From: Naveen Panwar<br>
>> [[5]<a href="mailto:panwarn09@gmail.com">panwarn09@gmail.com</a><mailto:[6]<a href="mailto:panwarn09@gmail.com">panwarn09@gmail.com</a>>]<br>
>> > Sent: 13 March 2014 16:43<br>
>> > To: Mendes de Jesus, Jorge; Jachym Cepicky<br>
>> > Cc: [7]<a href="mailto:pywps-dev@lists.osgeo.org">pywps-dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><mailto:[8]<a href="mailto:pywps-dev@lists.osgeo.org">pywps-dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
>> > Subject: Re: [Pywps-dev] [ GSOC 2014 ] Database output storage idea.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Respected Sir,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Followings are the points which needed to be answer regarding the<br>
>> proposal according to OSGeo Guideline.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 1. Introduction --<br>
>> > 2. Background --<br>
>> > 3. The idea --<br>
>> > 4. Project plan [ Detailed Time-line (Probably 13-week ) ] --<br>
>> > 5. Future ideas / How can your idea be expanded ?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I think we should consider these points on tonight hangout<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > >> > On 03/11/2014 12:31 AM, Jachym Cepicky wrote:<br>
>> > >> > > Hi,<br>
>> > >> > >> exporting<br>
>> > >> > >><br>
>> > >><br>
>> [4][6][9]<a href="https://github.com/jachym/pywps-4/blob/master/pywps/inout.py#L227" target="_blank">https://github.com/jachym/pywps-4/blob/master/pywps/inout.py#L227</a><br>
>> > >> > >> (will be moved to separate file soon, or maybe<br>
>> package)<br>
>> > >> > >> J<br>
>> > >><br>
>> ><br>
>> > --<br>
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>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > --<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Regards,<br>
>> > Naveen Panwar<br>
>> > Senior Undergraduate Student<br>
>> > IIIT-Hyderabad, India.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > [10]<a href="http://lsi.iiit.ac.in/naveen.panwar" target="_blank">http://lsi.iiit.ac.in/naveen.panwar</a><br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Jachym Cepicky<br>
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>> @jachymc<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Regards,<br>
>> Naveen Panwar<br>
>> Senior Undergraduate Student<br>
>> IIIT-Hyderabad, India.<br>
>> [13]<a href="http://lsi.iiit.ac.in/naveen.panwar" target="_blank">http://lsi.iiit.ac.in/naveen.panwar</a><br>
>><br>
>> References<br>
>><br>
>> Visible links<br>
>> 1. mailto:<a href="mailto:jachym.cepicky@geosense.cz">jachym.cepicky@geosense.cz</a><br>
>> 2. mailto:<a href="mailto:panwarn09@gmail.com">panwarn09@gmail.com</a><br>
>> 3. mailto:<a href="mailto:jorge.mendesdejesus@wur.nl">jorge.mendesdejesus@wur.nl</a><br>
>> 4. mailto:<a href="mailto:jorge.mendesdejesus@wur.nl">jorge.mendesdejesus@wur.nl</a><br>
>> 5. mailto:<a href="mailto:panwarn09@gmail.com">panwarn09@gmail.com</a><br>
>> 6. mailto:<a href="mailto:panwarn09@gmail.com">panwarn09@gmail.com</a><br>
>> 7. mailto:<a href="mailto:pywps-dev@lists.osgeo.org">pywps-dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
>> 8. mailto:<a href="mailto:pywps-dev@lists.osgeo.org">pywps-dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
>> 9. <a href="https://github.com/jachym/pywps-4/blob/master/pywps/inout.py#L227" target="_blank">https://github.com/jachym/pywps-4/blob/master/pywps/inout.py#L227</a><br>
>> 10. <a href="http://lsi.iiit.ac.in/naveen.panwar" target="_blank">http://lsi.iiit.ac.in/naveen.panwar</a><br>
>> 11. <a href="http://geosense.cz/" target="_blank">http://geosense.cz/</a><br>
>> 12. <a href="http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp" target="_blank">http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp</a><br>
>> 13. <a href="http://lsi.iiit.ac.in/naveen.panwar" target="_blank">http://lsi.iiit.ac.in/naveen.panwar</a><br>
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