[Qgis-community-team] Fw: Att Werner Macho - suggested AU/EU language translation.

Tue Apr 9 16:33:42 PDT 2024

I should also add: before doing this I looked everywhere in the available customisation sections within QGIS Desktop and could not find anywhere this variable/default could be changed.
Ideally, it would be great if users could simply have a field legend window where we could select or change the preferred default number separator - this way everyone can be happy and there'd be no need to dig through or hack code.

Kind regards,

Dylan Chenoweth

Surface Water Science and Engineering

BSc Env (Hons.) | Flinders University

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From: Dylan Chenoweth <dylanchenoweth at outlook.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2024 9:01 AM
To: qgis-community-team at lists.osgeo.org <qgis-community-team at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Att Werner Macho - suggested AU/EU language translation.

Hello Werner,

I understand there is currently no Australian language conversion for QGIS. I've suggested this translation be added to through the Transifex QGIS Desktop page.

However, it may not be necessary to have a full translation for AU since we mostly adopt UK English anyway. But the reason I came across the translation option was born from a very simple requirement which I'll point out below...

In the legend/symbol ranges for classified symbols, the default range seperator is a hyphen (-) which is incorrect for describing ranges. Additionally, negative numbers are also listed using a hyphen (-).

The hyphen is very similar to the minus (−) sign (but not identical - it sits lower than a minus or en-dash). Number ranges should be separated by an en-dash (–). This helps visually identify the difference between numbers being negatives or math equations, vs ranges. The below summarises the differences:

‐    −    –    [hyphen, minus, en-dash]

                                       negative 100 to positive 100
QGIS current default range:               ‐100 ‐ 100
Range using just math symbol for minus:   −100 ‐ 100
Range using math minus and en-dash:     −100 – 100

Range using just en-dash separator        -100 – 100

Below is an example of the three differences in QGIS:

QGIS current default range: 
[cid:f258398f-f504-446f-97a1-372a978a332c]    

Range using just math symbol for minus:
[cid:81f99f65-fbb0-4020-956a-d3f3ccf9af62]

Range using math minus and en-dash:
[cid:61d81f36-1242-4b63-9ad6-90d8053da0c3]

I also acknowledge there is a need to keep legends visually easy to read, and adding the minus and en-dash results in longer-spanning number ranges than those that have positive values.
For this reason, I believe it may still be beneficial to retain the hyphen for negative numbers to keep the spanning label short a little more in-line with the positive values. However, I strongly believe the range seperator default should be replaced with an en-dash, to clearly show the difference between it being a range and a math operator. This example is shown below in full with positive values below for reference

[cid:6b641852-a047-4e9d-bb42-675c127cf3f8]

I am keen to hear you and the team's thoughts - looking forward to your reply, thankyou.

This is further discussed on the Australian Government's website: Dashes | Style Manual<https://www.stylemanual.gov.au/grammar-punctuation-and-conventions/punctuation/dashes> -and is published as the correct use of the en-dash vs hyphen/minus in many other online sources.

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Use the correct symbols for en dash and minus sign

En dashes are half the width of the font height. Use them as a type of punctuation.

Don’t use an en dash instead of a minus sign. Screen readers will read dashes as dashes, not as the minus sign.

In Unicode, the en dash is U+2013.

To make sure screen readers read the minus sign, use the mathematical symbol for minus. In Unicode, this is U+2212.

Don’t confuse the dash or the minus symbol for a hyphen<https://www.stylemanual.gov.au/node/105>.

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Kind regards,

Dylan Chenoweth

Environmental Scientist (water)

BSc Env (Hons.) | Flinders University

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