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    <p>Thanks Piers for sharing.</p>
    <p>I'm forwarding to the QGIS Community page where qgis documenters
      are communicating.</p>
    <p>QGIS writers, I suspect you will want to monitor and contribute
      to our OSGeo Season of Docs communication. You can subscribe at: <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/4/19 1:06 pm, Piers Higgs wrote:<br>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Cameron and I had a
          brief discussion this morning via email, and he asked if I'd
          share some of my thoughts here on the list - so I've just
          joined up to do so.</div>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I probably don't know
          many people on this list, but I run a little tech shop called
          Gaia Resources in Australia.  You can find out more about us
          on the <a href="http://www.gaiaresources.com.au"
            moz-do-not-send="true">www.gaiaresources.com.au</a> web
          site, but I've had a background in spatial tech myself, and
          while we're tech agnostic, we also prefer open source and try
          to give back where we can.  We've been doing a bunch of things
          with QGIS for a fair while now, and trying to get to events
          and support the open source community where we can.  Our
          freely available online QGIS course seems to be reasonably
          popular (more on that to come).</div>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">So some thoughts on
          technical writing, training materials and courses to follow -
          happy to carry on the conversation here on the list or
          personally, if you prefer.</div>
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              writing</u></div>
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style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">I
            am a keen (technical) writer myself, but I am probably the
            most time poor person at Gaia Resources.  While I'd
            personally love to be more involved in helping with the
            writing and putting our names down across some of the season
            of docs stuff, we're probably not going to have time to
            really provide a lot of input.  We are pretty busy with the
            operational side of the business, and all of us already
            volunteer in different ways outside of work hours, or have
            families to look after.  So I'm not sure that as a company,
            we could be heavily involved in the technical writing
            component.  </div>
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style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br>
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          <div class="gmail_default"
style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">We
            might be able to help here and there, but as a small
            business we often have a lot of competing priorities, and
            keeping the lights on with paid work will always trump our
            idealistic natures :)</div>
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          <div class="gmail_default"
style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><u>Training
              materials</u></div>
          <div class="gmail_default"
style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Our
            freely available QGIS training course (which focuses on the
            environmental side, as per <a
              href="https://www.gaiaresources.com.au/our-services/online-training/"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.gaiaresources.com.au/our-services/online-training/</a>) was
            released last year, which has:</div>
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          <div class="gmail_default"
style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">*
            A series of youtube videos - <a
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fag9Yn65Qy0&list=PLfInsSYJw1lQ_vii1wxePr7aKqBOziKVQ"
              target="_blank"
              style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fag9Yn65Qy0&list=PLfInsSYJw1lQ_vii1wxePr7aKqBOziKVQ</a></div>
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style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">*
            A manual that has been designed around these chapters, and</div>
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style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">*
            A data package that contains all the data to run the course.</div>
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style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_default"
style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">All
            we ask is that people let us know that they want to use the
            course, and then we can see who around the world is using it
            and to see if there is any demand for updates.  Once we get
            a request, we just send a link to a Dropbox folder where
            they can get the manual and data.  We also run our own
            commercial training courses, but we mainly do that for
            clients that are after us to train a bunch of people at once
            - a lot of the individual requests are too hard to set up
            training courses for, so we point them at our free training
            instead. Our commercial training uses our manuals and data
            but not the videos, so we run those in the latest Long Term
            Release (LTR), which keeps our materials up to scratch.</div>
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style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br>
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          <div class="gmail_default"
style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">The
            videos are a different story.  They are based on an old LTR,
            2.18, and we're currently working on a new 3.4 version which
            we hope to push out a new set of videos for in June.  By
            that stage QGIS will have probably evolved a bit further, so
            the overhead of keeping these videos up to date is a pain
            (the manual and data, much easier!).  Video assets are just
            time consuming to maintain.</div>
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style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br>
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          <div class="gmail_default"
style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">So,
            we do have people using our course from all over the world (<span
style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">a
              few are - see the map at<span> </span></span><a
              href="https://www.gaiaresources.com.au/our-services/online-training/"
              style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.gaiaresources.com.au/our-services/online-training/</a><span
style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">)</span> and
            a lot of what they say is that it does lower the barrier to
            entry (at least to the people wanting to use QGIS), which is
            what I think you are all trying to do.  To be frank, better
            documentation isn't (by itself) going to lower that barrier
            for a lot of people who want to get started with something
            more hands on and useful, rather than trying to read lots of
            written stuff.  Which is why we were keen to get this course
            made and out there.</div>
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style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br>
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          <div class="gmail_default"
style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Our
            aim is to keep updating our course and making it freely
            available (yes, I hate monopolies too).  We'll keep having
            an "environmental" bent in it, but hopefully a few others
            might take this on board and start putting together courses
            that cover other disciplines, such as geology, planning,
            etc.  It shouldn't be too hard to set that up (if a small
            business in Perth can do it... ;)  We haven't found that
            putting this course out there has eroded the demand for
            commercial training, too - it's probably increased it, if
            anything.</div>
          <div class="gmail_default"
style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br>
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          <div class="gmail_default"
style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">I
            don't know how this would work, but if our training
            materials can get used to bootstrap something, I'm all for
            that (some sort of Creative Commons licence would probably
            work here).</div>
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style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br>
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          <div class="gmail_default"
style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><u>Ongoing
              courses</u></div>
          <div class="gmail_default"
style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">We
            are happy to run this training course at any of the FOSS4G
            conferences that we attend, or get involved in those more if
            you like.  The last FOSS4G one in Australia was pretty good
            - our team really liked it, we learned a fair bit, and
            hopefully contributed enough - so we've generally got this
            on our radar.  Not that we're going to be heading to every
            one and all over the world - we do have to keep an eye on
            the return on our investment there!  But I'm happy to have
            further conversations around that.</div>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">So there's a few
          thoughts from a small group in Perth that might help.  </div>
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Cameron Shorter
Technology Demystifier
Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant

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