<div dir="auto">Not wanting to add more confusion, but adding it anyway :-p<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Maybe it's not the style manager that that needs to be changed, but the term "style" itself and how it is used. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">At least for me the word style is related to the way something looks.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In QGIS, when you save a "style" you are actually saving many of the layer "properties" and not all are related to the way the layer will look.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So style could be reserved to symbols, labels, color ramps, and so on... And maybe we need another term for what we call style now.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We also have Layer Definition Files.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">My two cents.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Alex</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">A sexta, 14/01/2022, 21:06, Charles Dixon-Paver <<a href="mailto:charles@kartoza.com">charles@kartoza.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">+1 for Design Manager<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 23:00, Anita Graser <<a href="mailto:anitagraser@gmx.at" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">anitagraser@gmx.at</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Thanks Harrissou and Jörn,</p>
<p>Good to see all these previous discussions. Seems like everyone
agrees that "Style Manager" has to be renamed but we don't have a
good alternative yet. As Nyall said in
<a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765</a>, "Symbol Manager" is not
correct either. <br>
</p>
<p>We're looking for an umbrella term that covers: symbols, color
ramps, text formats, label settings, legend patch shapes, and 3D
symbols.</p>
<p>We use "resources" in the Resource Manager, however that's for
"Symbology (SVG, images, styles), Processing scripts, Processing
models, R scripts and checklists" (according to
<a href="https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/qgis_resource_sharing/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/qgis_resource_sharing/</a>).</p>
<p>Brainstorming:</p>
<ul>
<li>Cartography Resources</li>
<li>Visual Library</li>
<li>Design Manager</li>
<li>...</li>
</ul>
<p>What do you think about "design"?</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Anita<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div>On 14.01.2022 21:25, Jörn Gutzeit
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi,
<br>
<br>
I also recently had a confusion between style/style: I wanted to
write the documentation for the new feature "Save all styles" and
first searched for it in the style manger (also because the issue
has the tag "style manager" ... ;-) ). The new feature, however,
makes it possible to save several styles from the layer properties
dialog as QML/SLD files or in a db [1].
<br>
<br>
Now we are in a discussion how to separate this styles in the
chapter (all layer properties) and the style manager (symbols
only) [2]. Renaming the style manager might help …
<br>
<br>
Regards,
<br>
Jörn
<br>
<br>
[1] <a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/4398" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/4398</a>
<br>
[2] <a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/pull/7217" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/pull/7217</a>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 14.01.2022 um 16:39 schrieb Delaz J:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi Anita, all
<br>
<br>
The inconsistent use of the word "style" is indeed an issue and
confusing. It was raised years ago in
<a href="https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/16" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/16</a> (and
probably in QGIS repo but hard to find) with an attempt of fix
at <a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765</a> (you'll find some
answers to your suggestion of symbol manager).
<br>
<br>
Maybe the time has come for the cleanup...?
<br>
<br>
Regards,
<br>
<br>
Harrissou
<br>
<br>
Le 14/01/2022 à 13:14, Anita Graser a écrit :
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi,
<br>
<br>
This question was triggered by Tim at
<br>
<a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/issues/231" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/issues/231</a>
<br>
<br>
The terms "style" and "symbol" are used somewhat
inconsistently in the
<br>
QGIS application and on the QGIS hub website. For example, in
Settings |
<br>
Style Manager the users actually manage symbols. On the hub,
the
<br>
"styles" page allows sharing symbol definitions (XML) but not
styles (QML).
<br>
<br>
This later inconsistency is confusing, i.e. it confused me
when I wanted
<br>
to share a QML file and realized that I cannot.
<br>
<br>
I think it would be worthwhile to strive for more consistency
and to
<br>
rename the Style Manager because it really is a symbol
manager. It's
<br>
Import/Export functionality deals with XML symbols and not QML
styles.
<br>
<br>
What do you think?
<br>
<br>
Regards,
<br>
<br>
Anita
<br>
<br>
<br>
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