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Hi,<br>
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I agree with Alex:
don't want to add to the confusion, but doing it anyway :-)<br>
<br>
<br>
When I read it, I
thought: right, also for me the word ‚style‘ means how something
looks and IMHO that is what is managed in the Style Manager. And a
QML
file stores (by now?) more than that.<br>
<br>
After thinking about
it: for me, what is stored in a QML file is best described as ‚Layer
Properties Settings‘, but that's probably too long ;-) Could it
just be called ‚Layer Properties‘ or ‚Layer Settings‘? I
prefer Layer Settings, then a QML file would be a Layer Settings
File.<br>
<style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.25cm; line-height: 115%; background: transparent }</style><br>
<br>
Jörn<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 15.01.22 um 11:14 schrieb Alexandre
Neto:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Not wanting to add more confusion, but adding it
anyway :-p
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<div dir="auto">Maybe it's not the style manager that that needs
to be changed, but the term "style" itself and how it is
used. </div>
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<div dir="auto">At least for me the word style is related to the
way something looks.</div>
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<div dir="auto">In QGIS, when you save a "style" you are
actually saving many of the layer "properties" and not all are
related to the way the layer will look.</div>
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<div dir="auto">So style could be reserved to symbols, labels,
color ramps, and so on... And maybe we need another term for
what we call style now.</div>
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<div dir="auto">We also have Layer Definition Files.</div>
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<div dir="auto">My two cents.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Alex</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">A sexta, 14/01/2022, 21:06,
Charles Dixon-Paver <<a href="mailto:charles@kartoza.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">charles@kartoza.com</a>> escreveu:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">+1 for Design Manager<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at
23:00, Anita Graser <<a
href="mailto:anitagraser@gmx.at" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">anitagraser@gmx.at</a>>
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<p>Thanks Harrissou and Jörn,</p>
<p>Good to see all these previous discussions. Seems
like everyone agrees that "Style Manager" has to be
renamed but we don't have a good alternative yet. As
Nyall said in <a
href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765</a>,
"Symbol Manager" is not correct either. <br>
</p>
<p>We're looking for an umbrella term that covers:
symbols, color ramps, text formats, label settings,
legend patch shapes, and 3D symbols.</p>
<p>We use "resources" in the Resource Manager, however
that's for "Symbology (SVG, images, styles),
Processing scripts, Processing models, R scripts and
checklists" (according to <a
href="https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/qgis_resource_sharing/"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/qgis_resource_sharing/</a>).</p>
<p>Brainstorming:</p>
<ul>
<li>Cartography Resources</li>
<li>Visual Library</li>
<li>Design Manager</li>
<li>...</li>
</ul>
<p>What do you think about "design"?</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Anita<br>
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<div>On 14.01.2022 21:25, Jörn Gutzeit wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi, <br>
<br>
I also recently had a confusion between style/style: I
wanted to write the documentation for the new feature
"Save all styles" and first searched for it in the
style manger (also because the issue has the tag
"style manager" ... ;-) ). The new feature, however,
makes it possible to save several styles from the
layer properties dialog as QML/SLD files or in a db
[1]. <br>
<br>
Now we are in a discussion how to separate this styles
in the chapter (all layer properties) and the style
manager (symbols only) [2]. Renaming the style manager
might help … <br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
Jörn <br>
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[1] <a
href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/4398"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/4398</a>
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[2] <a
href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/pull/7217"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/pull/7217</a>
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Am 14.01.2022 um 16:39 schrieb Delaz J: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi Anita, all <br>
<br>
The inconsistent use of the word "style" is indeed
an issue and confusing. It was raised years ago in <a
href="https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/16"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/16</a>
(and probably in QGIS repo but hard to find) with an
attempt of fix at <a
href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765</a>
(you'll find some answers to your suggestion of
symbol manager). <br>
<br>
Maybe the time has come for the cleanup...? <br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
<br>
Harrissou <br>
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Le 14/01/2022 à 13:14, Anita Graser a écrit : <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi, <br>
<br>
This question was triggered by Tim at <br>
<a
href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/issues/231"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/issues/231</a>
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<br>
The terms "style" and "symbol" are used somewhat
inconsistently in the <br>
QGIS application and on the QGIS hub website. For
example, in Settings | <br>
Style Manager the users actually manage symbols.
On the hub, the <br>
"styles" page allows sharing symbol definitions
(XML) but not styles (QML). <br>
<br>
This later inconsistency is confusing, i.e. it
confused me when I wanted <br>
to share a QML file and realized that I cannot. <br>
<br>
I think it would be worthwhile to strive for more
consistency and to <br>
rename the Style Manager because it really is a
symbol manager. It's <br>
Import/Export functionality deals with XML symbols
and not QML styles. <br>
<br>
What do you think? <br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
<br>
Anita <br>
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