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    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    I agree with Alex:
    don't want to add to the confusion, but doing it anyway :-)<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    When I read it, I
    thought: right, also for me the word ‚style‘ means how something
    looks and IMHO that is what is managed in the Style Manager. And a
    QML
    file stores (by now?) more than that.<br>
    <br>
    After thinking about
    it: for me, what is stored in a QML file is best described as ‚Layer
    Properties Settings‘, but that's probably too long ;-) Could it
    just be called ‚Layer Properties‘ or ‚Layer Settings‘? I
    prefer Layer Settings, then a QML file would be a Layer Settings
    File.<br>
    <style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.25cm; line-height: 115%; background: transparent }</style><br>
    <br>
    Jörn<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 15.01.22 um 11:14 schrieb Alexandre
      Neto:<br>
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cite="mid:CA+H0G_E0mv=NWQqbui6JSh2Hz+skuMQs-e7G6QJ5u3XqZ_Kcqw@mail.gmail.com">
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      <div dir="auto">Not wanting to add more confusion, but adding it
        anyway :-p
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        <div dir="auto">Maybe it's not the style manager that that needs
          to be changed, but the term "style" itself and how it is
          used. </div>
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        <div dir="auto">At least for me the word style is related to the
          way something looks.</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">In QGIS, when you save a "style" you are
          actually saving many of the layer "properties" and not all are
          related to the way the layer will look.</div>
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        <div dir="auto">So style could be reserved to symbols, labels,
          color ramps, and so on... And maybe we need another term for
          what we call style now.</div>
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        <div dir="auto">We also have Layer Definition Files.</div>
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        <div dir="auto">My two cents.</div>
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        <div dir="auto">Alex</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">A sexta, 14/01/2022, 21:06,
          Charles Dixon-Paver <<a href="mailto:charles@kartoza.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true">charles@kartoza.com</a>> escreveu:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">+1 for Design Manager<br>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at
              23:00, Anita Graser <<a
                href="mailto:anitagraser@gmx.at" target="_blank"
                rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">anitagraser@gmx.at</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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                <p>Thanks Harrissou and Jörn,</p>
                <p>Good to see all these previous discussions. Seems
                  like everyone agrees that "Style Manager" has to be
                  renamed but we don't have a good alternative yet. As
                  Nyall said in <a
                    href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765"
                    target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765</a>,
                  "Symbol Manager" is not correct either. <br>
                </p>
                <p>We're looking for an umbrella term that covers:
                  symbols, color ramps, text formats, label settings,
                  legend patch shapes, and 3D symbols.</p>
                <p>We use "resources" in the Resource Manager, however
                  that's for "Symbology (SVG, images, styles),
                  Processing scripts, Processing models, R scripts and
                  checklists" (according to <a
                    href="https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/qgis_resource_sharing/"
                    target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/qgis_resource_sharing/</a>).</p>
                <p>Brainstorming:</p>
                <ul>
                  <li>Cartography Resources</li>
                  <li>Visual Library</li>
                  <li>Design Manager</li>
                  <li>...</li>
                </ul>
                <p>What do you think about "design"?</p>
                <p>Regards,</p>
                <p>Anita<br>
                </p>
                <p><br>
                </p>
                <div>On 14.01.2022 21:25, Jörn Gutzeit wrote:<br>
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                <blockquote type="cite">Hi, <br>
                  <br>
                  I also recently had a confusion between style/style: I
                  wanted to write the documentation for the new feature
                  "Save all styles" and first searched for it in the
                  style manger (also because the issue has the tag
                  "style manager" ... ;-) ). The new feature, however,
                  makes it possible to save several styles from the
                  layer properties dialog as QML/SLD files or in a db
                  [1]. <br>
                  <br>
                  Now we are in a discussion how to separate this styles
                  in the chapter (all layer properties) and the style
                  manager (symbols only) [2]. Renaming the style manager
                  might help … <br>
                  <br>
                  Regards, <br>
                  Jörn <br>
                  <br>
                  [1] <a
                    href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/4398"
                    target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/4398</a>
                  <br>
                  [2] <a
                    href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/pull/7217"
                    target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/pull/7217</a>
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                  Am 14.01.2022 um 16:39 schrieb Delaz J: <br>
                  <blockquote type="cite">Hi Anita, all <br>
                    <br>
                    The inconsistent use of the word "style" is indeed
                    an issue and confusing. It was raised years ago in <a
href="https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/16"
                      target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/16</a>
                    (and probably in QGIS repo but hard to find) with an
                    attempt of fix at <a
                      href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765"
                      target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765</a>
                    (you'll find some answers to your suggestion of
                    symbol manager). <br>
                    <br>
                    Maybe the time has come for the cleanup...? <br>
                    <br>
                    Regards, <br>
                    <br>
                    Harrissou <br>
                    <br>
                    Le 14/01/2022 à 13:14, Anita Graser a écrit : <br>
                    <blockquote type="cite">Hi, <br>
                      <br>
                      This question was triggered by Tim at <br>
                      <a
                        href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/issues/231"
                        target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/issues/231</a>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      The terms "style" and "symbol" are used somewhat
                      inconsistently in the <br>
                      QGIS application and on the QGIS hub website. For
                      example, in Settings | <br>
                      Style Manager the users actually manage symbols.
                      On the hub, the <br>
                      "styles" page allows sharing symbol definitions
                      (XML) but not styles (QML). <br>
                      <br>
                      This later inconsistency is confusing, i.e. it
                      confused me when I wanted <br>
                      to share a QML file and realized that I cannot. <br>
                      <br>
                      I think it would be worthwhile to strive for more
                      consistency and to <br>
                      rename the Style Manager because it really is a
                      symbol manager. It's <br>
                      Import/Export functionality deals with XML symbols
                      and not QML styles. <br>
                      <br>
                      What do you think? <br>
                      <br>
                      Regards, <br>
                      <br>
                      Anita <br>
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