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<p>Maybe "Layer configuration"?</p>
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<p id="reply-intro">On 2022-01-18 16:30, Jörn Gutzeit wrote:</p>
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<div>Hi,<br /><br />I agree with Alex: don't want to add to the confusion, but doing it anyway :-)<br /><br /><br />When I read it, I thought: right, also for me the word ‚style' means how something looks and IMHO that is what is managed in the Style Manager. And a QML file stores (by now?) more than that.<br /><br />After thinking about it: for me, what is stored in a QML file is best described as ‚Layer Properties Settings', but that's probably too long ;-) Could it just be called ‚Layer Properties' or ‚Layer Settings'? I prefer Layer Settings, then a QML file would be a Layer Settings File.<br />
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<div class="v1moz-cite-prefix">Am 15.01.22 um 11:14 schrieb Alexandre Neto:</div>
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<div dir="auto">Maybe it's not the style manager that that needs to be changed, but the term "style" itself and how it is used. </div>
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<div dir="auto">At least for me the word style is related to the way something looks.</div>
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<div dir="auto">In QGIS, when you save a "style" you are actually saving many of the layer "properties" and not all are related to the way the layer will look.</div>
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<div dir="auto">So style could be reserved to symbols, labels, color ramps, and so on... And maybe we need another term for what we call style now.</div>
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<div dir="auto">We also have Layer Definition Files.</div>
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<div dir="auto">My two cents.</div>
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<div class="v1gmail_attr" dir="ltr">A sexta, 14/01/2022, 21:06, Charles Dixon-Paver <<a href="mailto:charles@kartoza.com" rel="noreferrer">charles@kartoza.com</a>> escreveu:</div>
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<div class="v1gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 23:00, Anita Graser <<a href="mailto:anitagraser@gmx.at" rel="noreferrer">anitagraser@gmx.at</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p>Thanks Harrissou and Jörn,</p>
<p>Good to see all these previous discussions. Seems like everyone agrees that "Style Manager" has to be renamed but we don't have a good alternative yet. As Nyall said in <a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765</a>, "Symbol Manager" is not correct either. </p>
<p>We're looking for an umbrella term that covers: symbols, color ramps, text formats, label settings, legend patch shapes, and 3D symbols.</p>
<p>We use "resources" in the Resource Manager, however that's for "Symbology (SVG, images, styles), Processing scripts, Processing models, R scripts and checklists" (according to <a href="https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/qgis_resource_sharing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/qgis_resource_sharing/</a>).</p>
<p>Brainstorming:</p>
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<li>Cartography Resources</li>
<li>Visual Library</li>
<li>Design Manager</li>
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<p>What do you think about "design"?</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Anita</p>
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<div>On 14.01.2022 21:25, Jörn Gutzeit wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 0">Hi, <br /><br />I also recently had a confusion between style/style: I wanted to write the documentation for the new feature "Save all styles" and first searched for it in the style manger (also because the issue has the tag "style manager" ... ;-) ). The new feature, however, makes it possible to save several styles from the layer properties dialog as QML/SLD files or in a db [1]. <br /><br />Now we are in a discussion how to separate this styles in the chapter (all layer properties) and the style manager (symbols only) [2]. Renaming the style manager might help ... <br /><br />Regards, <br />Jörn <br /><br />[1] <a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/4398" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/4398</a> <br />[2] <a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/pull/7217" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/pull/7217</a> <br /><br /><br /><br />Am 14.01.2022 um 16:39 schrieb Delaz J: <br />
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 0">Hi Anita, all <br /><br />The inconsistent use of the word "style" is indeed an issue and confusing. It was raised years ago in <a href="https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/16" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/16</a> (and probably in QGIS repo but hard to find) with an attempt of fix at <a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765</a> (you'll find some answers to your suggestion of symbol manager). <br /><br />Maybe the time has come for the cleanup...? <br /><br />Regards, <br /><br />Harrissou <br /><br />Le 14/01/2022 à 13:14, Anita Graser a écrit : <br />
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 0">Hi, <br /><br />This question was triggered by Tim at <br /><a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/issues/231" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/issues/231</a> <br /><br />The terms "style" and "symbol" are used somewhat inconsistently in the <br />QGIS application and on the QGIS hub website. For example, in Settings | <br />Style Manager the users actually manage symbols. On the hub, the <br />"styles" page allows sharing symbol definitions (XML) but not styles (QML). <br /><br />This later inconsistency is confusing, i.e. it confused me when I wanted <br />to share a QML file and realized that I cannot. <br /><br />I think it would be worthwhile to strive for more consistency and to <br />rename the Style Manager because it really is a symbol manager. It's <br />Import/Export functionality deals with XML symbols and not QML styles. <br /><br />What do you think? <br /><br />Regards, <br /><br />Anita <br /><br /><br /><br />_______________________________________________ <br />Qgis-community-team mailing list for organizing community resources such as documentation, translation etc.. <br /><a href="mailto:Qgis-community-team@lists.osgeo.org" rel="noreferrer">Qgis-community-team@lists.osgeo.org</a> <br /><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-community-team" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-community-team</a> </blockquote>
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