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<p>Good point about the questionable use of the term "style" itself.
This certainly raises the question of how extensively we can
change the use of multiple terms in QGIS without confusing
everyone, users and developers alike. Personally, I tend to favor
pragmatic solutions and would be willing to stick the general
meaning of style that has been established in QGIS over the past
years. <br>
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<p>Anita<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18.01.2022 16:39, Andreas Neumann
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<p>Maybe "Layer configuration"?</p>
<p>Andreas</p>
<p id="reply-intro">On 2022-01-18 16:30, Jörn Gutzeit wrote:</p>
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<div>Hi,<br>
<br>
I agree with Alex: don't want to add to the confusion, but
doing it anyway :-)<br>
<br>
<br>
When I read it, I thought: right, also for me the word
‚style' means how something looks and IMHO that is what is
managed in the Style Manager. And a QML file stores (by
now?) more than that.<br>
<br>
After thinking about it: for me, what is stored in a QML
file is best described as ‚Layer Properties Settings', but
that's probably too long ;-) Could it just be called ‚Layer
Properties' or ‚Layer Settings'? I prefer Layer Settings,
then a QML file would be a Layer Settings File.<br>
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Jörn<br>
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<div class="v1moz-cite-prefix">Am 15.01.22 um 11:14 schrieb
Alexandre Neto:</div>
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<div dir="auto">Not wanting to add more confusion, but
adding it anyway :-p
<div dir="auto"> </div>
<div dir="auto">Maybe it's not the style manager that
that needs to be changed, but the term "style" itself
and how it is used. </div>
<div dir="auto"> </div>
<div dir="auto">At least for me the word style is
related to the way something looks.</div>
<div dir="auto"> </div>
<div dir="auto">In QGIS, when you save a "style" you are
actually saving many of the layer "properties" and not
all are related to the way the layer will look.</div>
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<div dir="auto">So style could be reserved to symbols,
labels, color ramps, and so on... And maybe we need
another term for what we call style now.</div>
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<div dir="auto">We also have Layer Definition Files.</div>
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<div dir="auto">My two cents.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Alex</div>
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<div class="v1gmail_attr" dir="ltr">A sexta, 14/01/2022,
21:06, Charles Dixon-Paver <<a
href="mailto:charles@kartoza.com" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">charles@kartoza.com</a>>
escreveu:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">+1 for Design Manager</div>
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<div class="v1gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, 14 Jan
2022 at 23:00, Anita Graser <<a
href="mailto:anitagraser@gmx.at"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">anitagraser@gmx.at</a>>
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<p>Thanks Harrissou and Jörn,</p>
<p>Good to see all these previous discussions.
Seems like everyone agrees that "Style
Manager" has to be renamed but we don't have a
good alternative yet. As Nyall said in <a
href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765</a>,
"Symbol Manager" is not correct either. </p>
<p>We're looking for an umbrella term that
covers: symbols, color ramps, text formats,
label settings, legend patch shapes, and 3D
symbols.</p>
<p>We use "resources" in the Resource Manager,
however that's for "Symbology (SVG, images,
styles), Processing scripts, Processing
models, R scripts and checklists" (according
to <a
href="https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/qgis_resource_sharing/"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/qgis_resource_sharing/</a>).</p>
<p>Brainstorming:</p>
<ul>
<li>Cartography Resources</li>
<li>Visual Library</li>
<li>Design Manager</li>
<li>...</li>
</ul>
<p>What do you think about "design"?</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Anita</p>
<p><br>
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<div>On 14.01.2022 21:25, Jörn Gutzeit wrote:</div>
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border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 0">Hi,
<br>
<br>
I also recently had a confusion between
style/style: I wanted to write the
documentation for the new feature "Save all
styles" and first searched for it in the style
manger (also because the issue has the tag
"style manager" ... ;-) ). The new feature,
however, makes it possible to save several
styles from the layer properties dialog as
QML/SLD files or in a db [1]. <br>
<br>
Now we are in a discussion how to separate
this styles in the chapter (all layer
properties) and the style manager (symbols
only) [2]. Renaming the style manager might
help ... <br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
Jörn <br>
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[1] <a
href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/4398"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/4398</a>
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[2] <a
href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/pull/7217"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/pull/7217</a>
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Am 14.01.2022 um 16:39 schrieb Delaz J: <br>
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0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid;
margin: 0">Hi Anita, all <br>
<br>
The inconsistent use of the word "style" is
indeed an issue and confusing. It was raised
years ago in <a
href="https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/16"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/16</a>
(and probably in QGIS repo but hard to find)
with an attempt of fix at <a
href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765</a>
(you'll find some answers to your suggestion
of symbol manager). <br>
<br>
Maybe the time has come for the cleanup...?
<br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
<br>
Harrissou <br>
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Le 14/01/2022 à 13:14, Anita Graser a
écrit : <br>
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margin: 0">Hi, <br>
<br>
This question was triggered by Tim at <br>
<a
href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/issues/231"
target="_blank" rel="noopener
noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/issues/231</a>
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<br>
The terms "style" and "symbol" are used
somewhat inconsistently in the <br>
QGIS application and on the QGIS hub
website. For example, in Settings | <br>
Style Manager the users actually manage
symbols. On the hub, the <br>
"styles" page allows sharing symbol
definitions (XML) but not styles (QML). <br>
<br>
This later inconsistency is confusing,
i.e. it confused me when I wanted <br>
to share a QML file and realized that I
cannot. <br>
<br>
I think it would be worthwhile to strive
for more consistency and to <br>
rename the Style Manager because it really
is a symbol manager. It's <br>
Import/Export functionality deals with XML
symbols and not QML styles. <br>
<br>
What do you think? <br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
<br>
Anita <br>
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