[Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

Mon Jan 4 00:49:39 PST 2016

+1 to that.

On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 6:45 pm Alexander Bruy <alexander.bruy at gmail.com> wrote:

> IMO it is much better to develop native TMS data provider.
> In this case 3rd party plugins will be able to add TMS layers
> as we already can do with WMS/WFS/etc. Also we will have
> same mechanism to deal with layer objects.
>
>
> 2016-01-02 0:59 GMT+02:00 Victor Olaya <volayaf at gmail.com>:
> > I like the idea of promoting the QuickMapServices plugin instead of
> > the OpenLayers one, but I would go even further. This is a
> > functionality that would be good to have without having to install a
> > plugin, so why not making it a core plugin? (provided that it is
> > rather stable already and works fine). I am sure it would be a
> > welcomed addition to QGIS.
> >
> > An entry in the Layer menu (something like "Add base layer") makes
> > sense to me, and it will solve the issue with the plugin name not
> > being too clear, as someone pointed out.
> >
> > My 2 cents
> >
> > 2016-01-01 22:00 GMT+01:00 Pirmin Kalberer <pi_ml at sourcepole.com>:
> >> Am Donnerstag, 31. Dezember 2015, 11.53:47 schrieb Bernd Vogelgesang:
> >>> +1 for deprecating.
> >>> I think the "popularity" of OpenLayers only derives from the fact that
> it
> >>> was the only plugin available serving basemaps for a long time and
> that it
> >>> is mentioned all around the web in tutorials etc.
> >>> Most of my collegues with less experience frequently step into the
> traps
> >>> and digitize stuff only to find later that the result is shifted or the
> >>> map is not printable.
> >>>
> >>> I skipped it already a long time ago and tried to compensate it by
> finding
> >>> other sources like WMS etc which is not so easy over here in Germany
> >>> (especially since the built-in WMS Server Search results are completely
> >>> outdated for a long time).
> >>>
> >>> Since the QuickMapServices plugin is there, I always recommend that.
> >>> If this plugin would become the "successor" of OpenLayers, it would be
> >>> nice to know why those most popular sources like Bing etc are "hidden"
> in
> >>> the contributed services. Legal issues?
> >>
> >> The usage of Bing as TMS is now legal AFAIK. Using Google as TMS is
> against
> >> Googles Terms of Service. That's why the OpenLayer plugin uses
> OpenLayers
> >> (sic!) for Google layers, which complicates a lot of things.
> >> BTW, the master branch of OpenLayers also uses TMS where (legally)
> possible,
> >> which solves most printing problems, etc.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Pirmin
> >>
> >> --
> >> Pirmin Kalberer - @PirminKalberer
> >> Sourcepole - http://www.sourcepole.com
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I already proposed to the developers to rename their plugin to
> "Basemaps",
> >>> cause thats what it is actually about and which is a lot easier to
> >>> understand and memorize.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Bernd
> >>>
> >>> Am 31.12.2015, 07:17 Uhr, schrieb Paolo Cavallini <
> cavallini at faunalia.it>:
> >>> > Deprecating it makes sense to me, unless authors plan to fix the long
> >>> > standing issues.
> >>> > Thanks for raising this.
> >>> > All the best.
> >>> >
> >>> > Il 31 dicembre 2015 06:47:08 CET, h <hdixon at bigpond.net.au> ha
> scritto:
> >>> >> On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 22:42:27 -0500
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Randal Hale <rjhale at northrivergeographic.com> wrote:
> >>> >>> As a non-developer if I can chip in my .02 cents worth - I think
> >>> >>> deprecating it might be a good thing. To me it was always a plugin
> >>> >>> that received a lot of applause - but the one that would cause the
> >>> >>> most questions ("why can't I use this imagery in map composer").
> >>> >>> While I liked having access to google/bing imagery - it always made
> >>> >>> me more uncomfortable having it there because of the terms of
> service.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>I didn't know that QuickMapServices was a plugin - and after looking
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> at it I think most people will have a problem because there is no
> >>> >>> google/bing imagery in that one. In the US I have enough choices
> for
> >>> >>> imagery - and that might not be the case everywhere else. I'm
> unsure
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> how up to date MapQuest Aerial is - but better than nothing.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I got caught on that one.
> >>> >> In QuickMapServices>Settings there is a "Contributed Services" tile.
> >>> >> Select "Get Contributed Services" and a whole lot of stuff,
> including
> >>> >> Bing and Google are provided.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> To me QMS makes "Open layers" obsolete - but it needs a bit more
> >>> >> documentation on how to get Bing etc!!!
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On principle I am against retirement, but am not aware of a strong
> >>> >> argument against it for Open Layers.  (Something I have used and
> valued
> >>> >> for quite some time..)
> >>> >> H
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> Possibly add a pop-up/warning on the open layers plugin since it is
> >>> >>> popular - "We are in the process of deprecating this plugin".
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>Other than that - +1 for retirement.
> >>> >>>Randy
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>On 12/30/2015 09:42 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
> >>> >>>> On 31 December 2015 at 13:29, Joshua Quesenberry
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> <engnfrc at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>>>> If the plugin is deprecated, what is replacing it? I find the
> >>> >>>>> plugin to be very useful.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> QuickMapServices. It's got numerous improvements over OpenLayers,
> >>> >>>> including reprojection support and not breaking the map composer.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Nyall
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> >>>>> From: Qgis-developer
> >>> >>>>> [mailto:qgis-developer-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Tom
> >>> >>>>> Chadwin Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 5:46 PM To:
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer]
> >>> >>>>> Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> I think deprecation and removal would be good, but for a
> >>> >>>>> tangential reason: the name conflicts with OpenLayers the web
> >>> >>>>> mapping library. A trivial reason at best, but probably
> irritating
> >>> >>>>> to many, and potentially confusing to users.
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>>
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