Hi<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Barry Rowlingson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk" target="_blank">b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Meanwhile the word on the osgeo-discuss mailing list is 'awesome!'. I<br>
honestly looked at this new GRASS web site and thought I was still<br>
looking at the old one (not that I go there much). Rounded corners,<br>
wrong use of tabs, poor handling of narrow screens (the tabs wrap and<br>
the content gets pushed down) - it was like 2004 all over again...<br>
<br>
For Qgis, +1 for anything using Twitter Bootstrap, but an immediate -1<br>
if it still looks like Twitter Bootstrap...<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yeah well its a two step process - first make it use bootstrap....then make it look like we don't use bootstrap :-) As a sampler I dropped in a theme from <a href="http://bootswatch.com/">http://bootswatch.com/</a> (Cyborg theme since I was feeling intergalactic) and with 2 seconds work the docs render like this:</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://imgur.com/tNipi">http://imgur.com/tNipi</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Basically with all the infrastructure in place it will just come down to having a nice css theme written for bootstrap and all the other boring bits of building the site will be taken care of for us.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Tim</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:42 PM, John C. Tull <<a href="mailto:jctull@gmail.com">jctull@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Given what the prior website looked like, it is a vast improvement.<br>
> Nonetheless, I think Tim's points are spot on, especially regarding<br>
> balancing white space, use of green, and the drop-down/tab disconnect (the<br>
> tabs themselves look disconnected to me, and the grey shade for the active<br>
> tab makes it look inactive from expected gui practices).<br>
><br>
> Nonetheless, I congratulate the GRASS team for greatly improving from what<br>
> they had. I don't think QGIS should strive to replicate this look, though.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> John<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Nov 13, 2012, at 2:54 PM, G. Allegri <<a href="mailto:giohappy@gmail.com">giohappy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
</div><div class=""><div class="h5">> Sadly, I must agree with Tim.<br>
> Sadly because I know the effort made by the GRASS team to have the new site<br>
> out, but I cannot object Tim's points...<br>
><br>
> giovanni<br>
><br>
> PS: @Tim, I wasn't aware of the ongoing work to switch to a boostrap based<br>
> sphinx theme. What are you using for it?<br>
><br>
> 2012/11/13 Tim Sutton <<a href="mailto:lists@linfiniti.com">lists@linfiniti.com</a>><br>
>><br>
>> Hi<br>
>><br>
>> Yes I have seen it. With no disrespect to the GRASS folks I think it has<br>
>> enough problems that I would not like to copy it on our site. My (hopefully)<br>
>> constructive criticisms:<br>
>><br>
>> * its very busy<br>
>> * it doesnt have good whitespace balance e.g. module of the day box with<br>
>> screenshots box floating to the right<br>
>> * I love jquery but jquery css is looking old already<br>
>> * there are too many underlines [ ] >> > and other characters that<br>
>> distract attention and make it look not so friendly<br>
>> * the panels on the left (search, latest news, map) should have been put<br>
>> to the right<br>
>> * there is too much white space in the heading area<br>
>> * the logo really needs a refresh<br>
>> * the heavy green bars distract your eye away from the content<br>
>> * there are too many different font sizes and font styles<br>
>> * the drop down menus feel visually disconnected from the tabs the spring<br>
>> from and menus from tabs just feels kinda wierd<br>
>><br>
>> In short it could really use a designer to introduce balance, correct<br>
>> emphasis and remove distractions<br>
>><br>
>> As such I would not be supportive of using it for our site I suggest to<br>
>> wait for the sphinx theme based on bootstrap to come out and then start<br>
>> moving our web content into that. We will do some customisations for the<br>
>> QGIS front page and Richard has been making awesome progress in getting a<br>
>> well put together bootstrap based sphinx theme in place for us when we can<br>
>> then skin using any bootstrap theme (e.g. checkout some of the themes at<br>
>> <a href="http://bootswatch.com/" target="_blank">http://bootswatch.com/</a>).<br>
>><br>
>> So -1 from me<br>
>><br>
>> Regards<br>
>><br>
>> Tim<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Werner Macho <<a href="mailto:werner.macho@gmail.com">werner.macho@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi there!<br>
>>><br>
>>> Anyone seen the new GRASS Webpage?<br>
>>> I really like the clean and intuitive style with lots of information<br>
>>> presented clearly on the top page ..<br>
>>> Probably we can adapt it to "our" new webpage?<br>
>>> It even looks good on mobile phones ..<br>
>>><br>
>>> Opinions on that?<br>
>>><br>
>>> kind regards<br>
>>> Werner<br>
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