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    <div>On 01/13/2014 01:38 PM, Alessandro
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                    <div>On 01/13/2014 11:46 AM, Alessandro Pasotti
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                          <div class="gmail_quote">2014/1/13 Régis
                            Haubourg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:regis.haubourg@eau-adour-garonne.fr" target="_blank">regis.haubourg@eau-adour-garonne.fr</a>></span><br>
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                              there,<br>
                              as feature freeze is coming, I raise an
                              issue i didn't find in the lists or<br>
                              in the tracker.<br>
                              When working with attribute table, I had
                              many problems on a classical use<br>
                              case. I just explore attribute table,
                              filter, order, and then select lines,<br>
                              and zoom on the map.<br>
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                              - selection of lines is very slow even for
                              small tables. Do we need to<br>
                              trigger redraws when the selected features
                              are not in current canvas?<br>
                              Anyway, selecting/ unselecting is to slow<br>
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                              - selected line(s) are grey, and my eyes
                              can't see a difference with other<br>
                              non selected lines. I liked old blue 1.x
                              color.<br>
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                              - When selecting a set of feature (using
                              maps tools or expression), my first<br>
                              idea is to explore the selected fetaures
                              one by one. So I click on one and<br>
                              then will zoom on the feature, but this
                              refreshes current selection. When<br>
                              displaying only selected items, I loose
                              then my set of selected objects.<br>
                              What is the right workflow? Is there a way
                              to convert a manual selection set<br>
                              into a filter? Or could we add a
                              contextual click to 'zoom on the feature',<br>
                              not modifying current selection?<br>
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                              Tell me if I need to open tickets or if
                              someone is already on it.<br>
                              Cheers,<br>
                              Régis<br>
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                            <div>I'd just add to your notes that IMHO
                              the current attribute search is much less
                              usable than the old one, I feel that the
                              most frequent operation is filtering but
                              you have now to dig into the combo and
                              choose "column filter" to actvate one,
                              while in previous versions the filtering
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                What would be the solution to this?<br>
                Promoting the columns to top-level items instead of
                second-level items?<br>
                Or having a single toplevel "Search" item, which
                searches on all columns?<br>
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            <div>Hello Matthias,</div>
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            <div>Unfortunately I'm not a UX expert, I just noticed that
              doing one of the most common operations on attributes is
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          It would be great if those of us who have more experience in
          collecting user's feedback (i.r. during courses or trainings)
          could ask the users they meet what is their feeling about
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        <div class="gmail_extra">But what I would like to see is
          something like this:</div>
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    Alessandro, thank you for the mockup.<br>
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    The issue I see with this is, that the filter is defined in two
    different locations (in opposite corners of the window).<br>
    This would probably be thought of as a two-step approach ( 1: Filter
    for visible features 2: In addition, filter for features containing
    "Australia") where the two conditions would probably be connected by
    AND. I am not sure if this makes things easier ("Why is Australia
    not listed? Ah yeah, I have to change back to "Show All". Or: "Why
    are not all features shown even though I see a button saying "Show
    All").<br>
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    However, these are only my thoughts and I probably do have a
    strongly biased developers view.<br>
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    CC to UX list<span class=""><font color="#888888"><br>
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    Matthias<br>
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</blockquote></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>I see your point, even if I think that as long as the "visible feature" is not activated by default, the user is within the same single task: he will probably recall that he has already set a filter ("visible features) and quickly recognize why he's not seeing what he expected.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Other solution would be to put both in the same bottom line, do we have enough horizontal space?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
... or maybe just go back to 1.8 layout with the two bottom lines, with the combo instead of the checkboxes.<br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Alessandro Pasotti<br>w3:   <a href="http://www.itopen.it">www.itopen.it</a>
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