<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div id="yiv3823042980"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_9122"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_9121" style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div id="yiv3823042980"><div id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6532"><div id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6531" style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_4909"><span id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_4910">Hi all,</span></div><div id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_4911"><br id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_4912" clear="none"><span id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_4913"></span></div><div id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_4914"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6776"><span id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_4915">I am volunteering to install, do maintenance if you'll go the gitlab way. I would have said this from the start but I didn't notice that such a discussion was taking place. I am positive that I would manage this I have good enough experience with system administration and I'm actually maintaning a gitlab private instance for about 2 years now.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_7132"><span id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_4915">Although I can manage it on my own it would be very nice if somebody else would also be involved.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_7273"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_9182" dir="ltr">I can also help with migrating the issues from redmine to gitlab.</div><span id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_4915"></span></div></div> <br id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_4917" clear="none"><div id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_4894"><span></span></div> <div class="yiv3823042980qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6736"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_9144">Regards,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_9145">Tudor<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_9205"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_9206">PS. I think gitlab would be the better option<br></div></div></div></div></div><div id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6597"> <div id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6596" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6595" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yiv3823042980qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6699"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3823042980yqt8482742683" id="yiv3823042980yqt22208"><div class="yiv3823042980yqt4631826229" id="yiv3823042980yqt38127"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6594"><font id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6593" face="Arial" size="2"> On Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:00 PM, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann@carto.net> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv3823042980y_msg_container" id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6604"><div id="yiv3823042980"><div id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6603">
<div id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6602">Hi Denis,</div>
<div id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6609">We had a look at hosted solutions (for Gitlab and for Redmine) -
but most of them had been too expensive for our case - they have a
limit on the number of users that can be associated with a
project, or other limits like file sizes/total project size, etc.<br clear="none">
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<div id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6670">Running our own gitlab instance would have been an option, but no
one volunteered to take on the task of permanently maintaining the
infrastructure, e.g. dealing with security
issues/patching/upgrading, spammers, deal with the evil guys out
on the web. Maybe if we can find someone who wants to take on the
task (ideally more than one person), we could reconsider to use a
self-hosted gitlab.<br clear="none">
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Note that the new Redmine instance has some integration with github.
Jürgen, Richard or Pirmin can tell you the details.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
What is so bad with Redmine? And exactly what integration with
github are you missing? Maybe Redmine can do this integration.<br clear="none">
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Andreas<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv3823042980moz-cite-prefix" id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6698">Am 26.08.2016 um 23:03 schrieb Denis
Rouzaud:<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv3823042980yqt7492449892" id="yiv3823042980yqt29321"><blockquote id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6693" type="cite">
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6692">Hi all,</div>
<div dir="ltr">Being part of the unhappy, I would like to ask if you
have considered running our own gitlab instance or using a
gitlab service?</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6694">To me integrated solution should be a hard
requirement.</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6697"> If we have to maintain something like Redmine, why
not gitlab. It seems you can categorize issues. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Denis</div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_6695">Le ven. 26 août 2016 22:24, Andreas Neumann <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:a.neumann@carto.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:a.neumann@carto.net">a.neumann@carto.net</a>>
a écrit :<br clear="none">
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<blockquote class="yiv3823042980gmail_quote" id="yiv3823042980yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472297506995_7454" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi,<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
The issue tracker was discussed almost 1.5h at the board
meeting - and<br clear="none">
it wasn't a clear and unanimous decision. Some board members
(including<br clear="none">
me) also changed their minds during the discussion. Apparently
not all<br clear="none">
core devs were happy with the quite limited filtering and
structuring<br clear="none">
options that github offers. The issue tracker is certainly
quite<br clear="none">
limited, compared to other issue tracker offerings. Offering
only labels<br clear="none">
is quite limited. In addition, migrating all the existing
tickets from<br clear="none">
Redmine to Github turned out to be non-trivial - and we don't
want to<br clear="none">
loose the old issues.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Finally, it is probably good that we are in control of the
issues and<br clear="none">
that it runs on free software. The board knows that not all
people are<br clear="none">
happy with this decision but one cannot make everyone happy
... we hope<br clear="none">
that the "unhappy" people can still live with the renewed (and
faster)<br clear="none">
Redmine.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
The issues are migrated to the newest Redmine version and on a
dedicated<br clear="none">
machine rented by <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://qgis.org/">QGIS.ORG</a>
to ensure good performance. This should make<br clear="none">
dealing with issues much more pleasant and more performant.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Big thanks to Jürgen, Richard and Pirmin for dealing with the
Redmine<br clear="none">
migration.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Andreas<br clear="none">
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Am 26.08.2016 um 22:08 schrieb Marco Bernasocchi:<br clear="none">
> .<br clear="none">
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><br clear="none">
>> I was under the impression that we were leaning
towards to migrating<br clear="none">
>> to GH issues tracker.<br clear="none">
>> What was the main reason behind choosing Redmine
again? technical<br clear="none">
>> issues? lack of time to solve them? Will the
migration to a new<br clear="none">
>> Redmine version be effortless?<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
> Me too. I'm still convinced that this is a _very_ sub
optimal solution for everybody.<br clear="none">
> Pity we really want to stick with something that forces
us continuing having two different, non integrated tools where
one could have done it in a great way.<br clear="none">
><br clear="none">
> Cheers Marco<br clear="none">
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