<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Ok, I overlooked a few features, thanks Nathan for pointing out the refresh rate!<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I rely on web based tile or WMS backgrounds (OpenStreetMap, NRCan Geogratis, etc.). CityPhi fills in the background as the tiles show up. QGIS seems to need to draw the entire background in it's head, then displays it all at once, before it can use the cool multithreaded features on the vectors. Or is there another checkbox for "draw my background as it arrives from the tile service, but don't wait around for it to respond"?</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class="">
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; border-spacing: 0px;"><div class=""><div class="">--</div><div class="">John Abraham</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></span></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 10, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Nathan Woodrow <<a href="mailto:madmanwoo@gmail.com" class="">madmanwoo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hey John,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">QGIS has had multithreaded rendering since 2.0 which allows the map to be rendered as you pan around so you don't have to wait. You can also set the refresh rate in order to draw more features so you get feedback quicker.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards,</div><div class="">Nathan</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:32 AM, John Abraham <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:jea@hbaspecto.com" target="_blank" class="">jea@hbaspecto.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Is incremental drawing possible, especially for web features in the background?<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I've been playing with some GPU based visualizers lately (in particular CityPhi from INRO <a href="https://www.inrosoftware.com/en/products/cityphi/" target="_blank" class="">https://www.inrosoftware.<wbr class="">com/en/products/cityphi/</a> ) and switching back to QGIS and waiting for the maps to redraw on every single pan or zoom is extremely painful. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">GPU-drawn 3D visualizations at 30 frames per second is probably not a realistic short-term goal for QGIS. But, what about allowing the graphics system to draw the current status of the internal render, before it's complete? For example, if WMS tiles are being downloaded, can the background map be updated as data comes in, while the foreground features stay on top? Can layers be shown as they are drawn, instead of popping up the entire image after the final layer has been drawn?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">
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Re: QGIS/OGR: FeatureIds reassigned on write to<span class="m_-4408744932422211237Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>data<br class=""> provider? (Even Rouault)<br class=""> 2. Re: Value entry using comma as decimal separator?<br class=""> (Bernhard Ströbl)<br class=""> 3. Plugin [1246] go2mapillary approval notification.<br class=""> (<a href="mailto:noreply@qgis.org" target="_blank" class="">noreply@qgis.org</a>)<br class=""> 4. Re: QGIS/OGR: FeatureIds reassigned on write to<span class="m_-4408744932422211237Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>data<br class=""> provider? (Régis Haubourg)<br class=""> 5. Re: QGIS/OGR: FeatureIds reassigned on write to<span class="m_-4408744932422211237Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>data<br class=""> provider? (Even Rouault)<br class=""> 6. qgis-bin.exe - Entry Point Not Found (Patrice)<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<wbr class="">------------------------------<wbr class="">----------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 1<br class="">Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:58:57 +0200<br class="">From: Even Rouault <<a href="mailto:even.rouault@spatialys.com" target="_blank" class="">even.rouault@spatialys.com</a>><br class="">To: <a href="mailto:qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class="">Subject: Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS/OGR: FeatureIds reassigned on write<br class=""><span class="m_-4408744932422211237Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>to<span class="m_-4408744932422211237Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>data provider?<br class="">Message-ID: <2643131.9G3uCidT8S@even-i700><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I did some playing around and came up with some FeatureId mapping code<br class="">which is pretty space efficient (basically requiring just<br class="">3*nDeletedFeatures entries), see below.<br class=""><br class="">The code however assumes that the gaps in the fid-sequence are filled by<br class="">decreasing the fids after the gap, which may be pretty specific to the<br class="">OGR/Shapefile behaviour. <br class=""></blockquote><br class="">This should clearly be restricted to Shapefiles. Other drivers don't have this compaction logic <br class="">and will let happily holes in the feature ids.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hence in my view such code should really belong<br class="">into the OGR provider (or perhaps even ogr itself) and not in the<br class="">plugin. Thoughts?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Regarding putting that in OGR itself, there's no such API for that right now, and I'm not <br class="">completely clear of the value to add one (specific use case, for a single driver)<br class=""><br class="">Perhaps the QGIS OGR provider would be a better place for now.<br class=""><br class="">Even<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">Spatialys - Geospatial professional services<br class=""><a href="http://www.spatialys.com/" target="_blank" class="">http://www.spatialys.com</a><br class="">-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <<a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/attachments/20170710/138fa822/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.osgeo.org/<wbr class="">pipermail/qgis-developer/<wbr class="">attachments/20170710/138fa822/<wbr class="">attachment-0001.html</a>><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 2<br class="">Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 14:15:46 +0200<br class="">From: Bernhard Ströbl <<a href="mailto:bernhard.stroebl@jena.de" target="_blank" class="">bernhard.stroebl@jena.de</a>><br class="">To: qgis-developer <<a href="mailto:qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.<wbr class="">org</a>><br class="">Subject: Re: [QGIS-Developer] Value entry using comma as decimal<br class=""><span class="m_-4408744932422211237Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>separator?<br class="">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:2f5e52a4-ef66-5cb1-200d-80a1d8d9ffd7@jena.de" target="_blank" class="">2f5e52a4-ef66-5cb1-200d-<wbr class="">80a1d8d9ffd7@jena.de</a>><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed<br class=""><br class="">Hi,<br class="">just my two cents: My users are working in a German administration and <br class="">they depend on QGIS having a German UI. They will be puzzled if they are <br class="">supposed to use a point instead of the regular komma as decimal <br class="">separator. On the other hand they won't expect "5.5" to be a regular <br class="">entry into a decimal field either.<br class=""><br class="">Bernhard<br class=""><br class="">Am 08.07.2017 um 09:58 schrieb Richard Duivenvoorde:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 08-07-17 01:11, Nyall Dawson wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">It's a trivial change to make to get the spin boxes to accept the<br class="">local decimal separator, but this would prevent users entering "5.5"<br class="">in those locales.<br class=""><br class="">Can someone from one of these affected regions let me know what the<br class="">correct behavior should be? I don't want to make the change if it<br class="">breaks entry of 5.5 and that's the standard used in those locales.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">My personal view:<br class=""><br class="">In The Netherlands we also use comma as a decimal separator (don't most<br class="">european countries do?), and though I never use the Dutch locale myself,<br class="">I know ALL governmental organisations I've been run the Dutch<br class="">QGIS/localse just because Windows there is in Dutch (and set the Dutch<br class="">locale).<br class=""><br class="">I also know in the Spreadsheet world this gives A LOT of trouble because<br class="">most average users are not even aware what 'locale' they are using... So<br class="">people sending a us-locale spreadsheet to a dutch-locale user is often<br class="">in trouble....<br class=""><br class="">This makes for example so that in modern Banking web applications they<br class="">check and you can use both , and . as decimal separator (probably there<br class="">is some heuristic in which they check:<br class="">- if there is only one type of separator<br class="">- if there is one, and it is just 2 position from the end<br class="">- it is used as decimal separator<br class="">etc etc<br class="">But... that is easier when you are only doing currency numbers...<br class=""><br class="">I would not try to fight this locale war, or try to be smarter then<br class="">Qt/Windows:<br class="">IF people use a 'comma'-locale, they should use comma.<br class="">IF they do not like that: use us-locale<br class=""><br class="">It is the same problem with the character encoding in shapefiles. People<br class="">are not aware of what they do, but 'we' as part of the Qt or Windows<br class="">should not try to be smarter then that world we are part of.<br class=""><br class="">Untill the rest of the world come to their senses and start using the<br class="">comma as separator, use 24hr clocks (well preferably 100...), meters,<br class="">kilograms etc etc...<br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class=""><br class="">Richard Duivenvoorde<br class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">QGIS-Developer mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class="">List info: <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/<wbr class="">mailman/listinfo/qgis-<wbr class="">developer</a><br class="">Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/<wbr class="">mailman/listinfo/qgis-<wbr class="">developer</a><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">__________ Information from ESET Mail Security, version of virus signature database 15722 (20170710) __________<br class=""><br class="">The message was checked by ESET Mail Security.<br class=""><a href="http://www.eset.com/" target="_blank" class="">http://www.eset.com</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 3<br class="">Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 12:41:22 -0000<br class="">From: <a href="mailto:noreply@qgis.org" target="_blank" class="">noreply@qgis.org</a><br class="">To: <a href="mailto:enricofer@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">enricofer@gmail.com</a>, <a href="mailto:qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class="">Subject: [QGIS-Developer] Plugin [1246] go2mapillary approval<br class=""><span class="m_-4408744932422211237Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>notification.<br class="">Message-ID: <20170710124122.20479.19151@<wbr class="">320558c5528b><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Plugin go2mapillary approval by pcav.<br class="">The plugin version "[1246] go2mapillary 1.2" is now approved<br class="">Link: <a href="http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/go2mapillary/" target="_blank" class="">http://plugins.qgis.org/<wbr class="">plugins/go2mapillary/</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 4<br class="">Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:01:56 +0200<br class="">From: Régis Haubourg <<a href="mailto:regis.haubourg@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">regis.haubourg@gmail.com</a>><br class="">To: Even Rouault <<a href="mailto:even.rouault@spatialys.com" target="_blank" class="">even.rouault@spatialys.com</a>><br class="">Cc: QGIS Developers List <<a href="mailto:qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.<wbr class="">org</a>><br class="">Subject: Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS/OGR: FeatureIds reassigned on write<br class=""><span class="m_-4408744932422211237Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>to<span class="m_-4408744932422211237Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>data provider?<br class="">Message-ID:<br class=""><span class="m_-4408744932422211237Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><<a href="mailto:CABgOYCeOcdzqk7Lg%2BU%2BAzsFXMPuGgxvgmsq0NNjSP9LKQxUCXA@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">CABgOYCeOcdzqk7Lg+U+<wbr class="">AzsFXMPuGgxvgmsq0NNjSP9LKQxUCX<wbr class="">A@mail.gmail.com</a>><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class="">Hi,<br class=""><br class="">This should clearly be restricted to Shapefiles. Other drivers don't have<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">this compaction logic and will let happily holes in the feature ids.<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">What about Mapinfo TAB, which relies on DBF like shapefiles, and dbf files?<br class="">Just asking, I didn't dig into that in depth.<br class="">Régis<br class="">-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <<a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/attachments/20170710/4376189d/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.osgeo.org/<wbr class="">pipermail/qgis-developer/<wbr class="">attachments/20170710/4376189d/<wbr class="">attachment-0001.html</a>><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 5<br class="">Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:12:47 +0200<br class="">From: Even Rouault <<a href="mailto:even.rouault@spatialys.com" target="_blank" class="">even.rouault@spatialys.com</a>><br class="">To: Régis Haubourg <<a href="mailto:regis.haubourg@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">regis.haubourg@gmail.com</a>><br class="">Cc: QGIS Developers List <<a href="mailto:qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.<wbr class="">org</a>><br class="">Subject: Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS/OGR: FeatureIds reassigned on write<br class=""><span class="m_-4408744932422211237Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>to<span class="m_-4408744932422211237Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>data provider?<br class="">Message-ID: <1738591.dH2YPQ2QbH@even-i700><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br class=""><br class="">On lundi 10 juillet 2017 15:01:56 CEST Régis Haubourg wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi,<br class=""><br class="">This should clearly be restricted to Shapefiles. Other drivers don't have<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">this compaction logic and will let happily holes in the feature ids.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">What about Mapinfo TAB, which relies on DBF like shapefiles, and dbf files ?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Deleted records are flagged as such in the .dat/.dbf files (with '*' character , which is also <br class="">what the Shapefile driver use for non-compacted deleted DBF records) and in the .map file. <br class="">There's no compaction logic.<br class=""><br class="">I don't remember of having heard about compatibility issues with MapInfo regarding this <br class="">(but my memories can be wrong :-)), so I assume MapInfo does the same<br class=""><br class="">Even<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">Spatialys - Geospatial professional services<br class=""><a href="http://www.spatialys.com/" target="_blank" class="">http://www.spatialys.com</a><br class="">-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <<a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/attachments/20170710/20fe6f78/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.osgeo.org/<wbr class="">pipermail/qgis-developer/<wbr class="">attachments/20170710/20fe6f78/<wbr class="">attachment-0001.html</a>><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 6<br class="">Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 11:44:16 -0400<br class="">From: Patrice <<a href="mailto:abrabacabra@openmailbox.org" target="_blank" class="">abrabacabra@openmailbox.org</a>><br class="">To: <a href="mailto:qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class="">Subject: [QGIS-Developer] qgis-bin.exe - Entry Point Not Found<br class="">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:adced4f7-7c3b-7155-b2be-98dea2acd35c@openmailbox.org" target="_blank" class="">adced4f7-7c3b-7155-b2be-<wbr class="">98dea2acd35c@openmailbox.org</a>><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br class=""><br class="">I just installed QGIS 2.18.9 on Windows 10 64 bits with the network <br class="">install (64 bits) and I got this error (attached picture).<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">This was the version I had before formatting my computer and I am still <br class="">using the same OS version as before.<br class=""><br class="">I browsed to the folder and the DLL is indeed there. 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