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<p>Hi Tim,</p>
<p>Thanks for raising this, I think it's very important to have
everyone on board and especially have Jürgen as Release Manager
agree on the plan.</p>
<p>For what I think, the 3.0 release is a very special release since
we have the unique possibility to work on the API and to some
degree on workflows. Actually this is in my opinion not only a
possibility but an obligation as we will severely disappoint
plugin developers and users if we break things again in the near
future.</p>
<p>The calls for exemption that we have now are mostly backed up
with the argument that right now is the right time to do certain
things. This argument can not be repeated for future 3.x releases.
I would therefore propose not to discuss the fixed release
schedule in general, it has IMO worked out quite nicely. Instead I
would like the PSC to discuss a flexible handling of this
particular major release with the very specific requirements.<br>
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<p>Best regards</p>
<p>Matthias<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/06/2017 10:43 AM, Tim Sutton
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<div class="">We have our PSC meeting tonight and I have added
an agenda item about feature freeze exceptions. I will respond
immediately after the meeting with any decision that has been
reached, or if we are not able to reach a consensus I will put
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<div class="">As Jürgen is release manager, I would prefer that
we have his agreement and buy-in (he has already stated a
contrary opinion to lifting the freeze - <a
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<div class="">Probably more accurately I should state that
Jürgen already agreed in Girona to go to a fixed release
schedule in preference to a ‘when it is ready’ schedule as
was originally planned.</div>
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<div class="">At the risk of severely irritating Jürgen
(sorry!), why don’t we move back to a ‘release when ready’
approach which might also have the happy by-product of being
less work for him since he only needs to deal with the process
once when the release is deemed ready. </div>
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<div class="">One simple mechanism we could do is have a rolling
voting member’s vote (e.g. at then end of each month) with a
simple question “shall we freeze”? Once we have quorum on that
vote, we go ahead and freeze and Jürgen can pretty much ignore
3.x in his release planning until that vote passes. We also
have the by-product that we cannot tell our users / customers
/ fans when the release will be ready but by-and-large I think
the outcome will be better since we all will be dancing to the
same tune and we can make sure 3.0 has everything in it that
we think it should have without compromises.</div>
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<div class="">I also propose that the paid bug fixing should
commence now already regardless of when the freeze will
actually happen.</div>
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<div class="">Our PSC meeting is at 8pm CET (sorry thats an
awful time for you Nyall) and anybody is always welcome to sit
in the call if you wish you raise your concerns in person (or
send me any notes for things that you would like raised on
your behalf).</div>
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