<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 15 Dec 2017, at 15:26, Régis Haubourg <<a href="mailto:regis.haubourg@gmail.com" class="">regis.haubourg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Hi all, <br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">some years ago, we discussed of a new project file format able to store data and other ressources has been discussed. <br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We finally had the opportunity to make one step forward when working on the auxiliary data storage stuff. <br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What's the current status in QGIS 3:<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- we now have an optional format ".qgz" that is a zipped file<br class=""></div><div class="">- the auxiliary data storage is a sqlite database ".qgd" storing additional informations joined to classical layers (for manual labeling purposes for instance). It is NOT a spatialite database that could be the container for spatial data<br class=""></div><div class="">- when zip fil format is chosen, the qgd file is stored inside the qgz. <br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So, the path is opened to modify the offline editing tools or other equivalent features to store their local datasource (either gpkg or sqlite) inside the qgz too. <br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We also now have a container for storing SVG, color ramps, pictures or any additionnal ressource that should be shipped within the project. <br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Now my opinion on the proposal about storing all inside a GPKG:<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- I think we should first have a native "packaging" format using native qgs file, to adress what offline editing, Qconsolidate, or QFieldSync use cases requires. <br class=""></div><div class="">- The "interoperability" use case should be adressed only as an option, not a default solution, since SLD conversion (and things that don't stick to standards) will alter the project. <br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am in favor of discussing all that after QGIS3 is out so that we keep focused on that, and then discuss that at the Madeyra hackfest. I'd be pleased to animate a workgroup to reach common agreement, guidelines, and find a plan for that.<br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Thanks for laying everything out so clearly Régis! One other thing I wondered about ancillary data is the ability to store images or other external resources linked to a layer - there was some discussion about how to manage this in Nødebo too….</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Regards</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Tim</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards !<br class=""></div><div class="">Régis<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">Le 15 déc. 2017 10:16, "Richard Duivenvoorde" <<a href="mailto:rdmailings@duif.net" target="_blank" class="">rdmailings@duif.net</a>> a écrit :<br type="attribution" class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 14-12-17 13:59, Alessandro Pasotti wrote:<br class="">
> Hi Joana,<br class="">
><br class="">
> I think this would be a great addition to QGIS.<br class="">
><br class="">
> Big +1 from me, and thanks for the proposal.<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:49 PM, doublebyte <<a href="mailto:joana@doublebyte.net" target="_blank" class="">joana@doublebyte.net</a><br class="">
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:joana@doublebyte.net" target="_blank" class="">joana@doublebyte.net</a>>> wrote:<br class="">
><br class="">
> Hello,<br class="">
><br class="">
> Maybe some of you are aware of the "geopackage" plugin<br class="">
> <<a href="https://eos.geocat.net/gitlab/joana.simoes/foss4g_gpkg/blob/master/foss4g_gpkg.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://eos.geocat.net/gitla<wbr class="">b/joana.simoes/foss4g_gpkg/<wbr class="">blob/master/foss4g_gpkg.pdf</a><br class="">
> <<a href="https://eos.geocat.net/gitlab/joana.simoes/foss4g_gpkg/blob/master/foss4g_gpkg.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://eos.geocat.net/gitla<wbr class="">b/joana.simoes/foss4g_gpkg/<wbr class="">blob/master/foss4g_gpkg.pdf</a>>><br class="">
> .The initial goal of this plugin was to enable users to save their QGIS<br class="">
> projects, including style and associated resources<br class="">
> in a extended geopackage - the qgis geopackage extension<br class="">
> <<a href="https://github.com/pka/qgpkg/blob/master/qgis_geopackage_extension.md" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/pka/<wbr class="">qgpkg/blob/master/qgis_<wbr class="">geopackage_extension.md</a><br class="">
> <<a href="https://github.com/pka/qgpkg/blob/master/qgis_geopackage_extension.md" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/pka/<wbr class="">qgpkg/blob/master/qgis_<wbr class="">geopackage_extension.md</a>>> <br class="">
> -,<br class="">
> and load it onto another QGIS installation; on this approach, the<br class="">
> project is<br class="">
> encoded as qgs, in a database table. Later the plugin was forked to<br class="">
> support<br class="">
> a different geopackage exension - the owc geopackage extension<br class="">
> <<a href="https://github.com/pka/qgpkg/blob/master/owc_geopackage_extension.md" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/pka/<wbr class="">qgpkg/blob/master/owc_<wbr class="">geopackage_extension.md</a> <<a href="https://github.com/pka/qgpkg/blob/master/owc_geopackage_extension.md" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/pka/qgpkg/<wbr class="">blob/master/owc_geopackage_ext<wbr class="">ension.md</a>>> <br class="">
> - ,<br class="">
> which is standards-based; in this approach<br class="">
> <<a href="https://www.geocat.net/announcing-the-extended-geopackage-qgis-plugin/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://www.geocat.net/annou<wbr class="">ncing-the-extended-geopackage-<wbr class="">qgis-plugin/</a><br class="">
> <<a href="https://www.geocat.net/announcing-the-extended-geopackage-qgis-plugin/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://www.geocat.net/annou<wbr class="">ncing-the-extended-geopackage-<wbr class="">qgis-plugin/</a>>> <br class="">
> ,<br class="">
> the style is encoded as OGC:SLD and the project as OGC:OWS context.<br class="">
> The goal<br class="">
> of this approach is to support the migration of GIS projects, as we can<br class="">
> implement this extension in any desktop or server side GIS (e.g.: ArcGIS<br class="">
> Desktop).<br class="">
><br class="">
> The fork was merged in August this year, and the latest release of the<br class="">
> plugin <<a href="https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/QgisGeopackage/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://plugins.qgis.org/plug<wbr class="">ins/QgisGeopackage/</a><br class="">
> <<a href="https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/QgisGeopackage/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://plugins.qgis.org/plu<wbr class="">gins/QgisGeopackage/</a>>> already contains<br class="">
> both extensions, covering both use cases of porting QGIS projects and<br class="">
> migrating GIS projects. Recently, it was added support in the core<br class="">
> to the<br class="">
> "qgis geopackage extension"<br class="">
> <<a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/providers/ogr/qgsogrprovider.cpp#L762" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/qgis/<wbr class="">QGIS/blob/master/src/<wbr class="">providers/ogr/qgsogrprovider.<wbr class="">cpp#L762</a><br class="">
> <<a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/providers/ogr/qgsogrprovider.cpp#L762" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/qgis/<wbr class="">QGIS/blob/master/src/<wbr class="">providers/ogr/qgsogrprovider.<wbr class="">cpp#L762</a>>><br class="">
> , in the qgsogrprovider class. This means that if a user loads a<br class="">
> geopackage<br class="">
> which was encoded using the "qgis geopackage extension", it will<br class="">
> automatically load the QGIS project from it. We think that it makes<br class="">
> sense to<br class="">
> also add the "ows geopackage extension" to the core; in that case,<br class="">
> users<br class="">
> could load projects exported from other GIS software seamlessly, without<br class="">
> having to load the plugin. The mechanism would be very similar to<br class="">
> what was<br class="">
> already implemented for the "qgis geopackage extension".<br class="">
><br class="">
> Before preparing any Pull Request, we would like to understand first<br class="">
> what is<br class="">
> the general feeling of the community about this feature; is this<br class="">
> something<br class="">
> which seems useful and interesting to add to the QGIS core? If yes,<br class="">
> we would<br class="">
> also appreciate any comments regarding any details the implementation.<br class="">
><br class="">
> Looking forward to hearing your feedback :-)<br class="">
<br class="">
Yes, please! I think there was an issue about not being able to load an<br class="">
extended gpkg:<br class="">
<br class="">
<a href="https://issues.qgis.org/issues/17698" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://issues.qgis.org/issues<wbr class="">/17698</a><br class="">
<br class="">
so it looks like fixing a bug<br class="">
<br class="">
:-)<br class="">
<br class="">
R<br class="">
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