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    <p>Hi Tim,</p>
    <p>Wow, thanks for the very detailed answer.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24.06.18 10:46, Tim Sutton wrote:<br>
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      Hi Matthias<br>
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          <div>Since a few months ago, we added custom domain supports
            to the ‘projecta’ app we have built. That lets us host all
            the projects on one server instance but each project
            registering a custom domain can specify their own project or
            group of projects to be what is seen when you visit that
            domain. So while in the past you would see a bunch of
            different unrelated projects, you now see :</div>
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          <div><a href="http://changelog.qgis.org" class=""
              moz-do-not-send="true">http://changelog.qgis.org</a> ->
            goes straight to the QGIS projecta project</div>
          <div><a href="http://changelog.inasafe.org" class=""
              moz-do-not-send="true">http://changelog.inasafe.org</a>
            -> goes to the projecta landing page for InaSAFE (which
            then lists a few subprojects of InaSAFE)</div>
          <div><a href="http://changelog.kartoza.com" class=""
              moz-do-not-send="true">http://changelog.kartoza.com</a>
            -> goes to the generic landing page which any new project
            will be registered on</div>
          <div><a href="http://??" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">http://??</a>??
            -> more to come in future</div>
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    Ah, perfect<br>
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          <div>Although we built this platform based around the things
            we identified as useful for QGIS, we planned to make it
            generic enough that it can be used by other projects, with
            eventually a monetisation scheme (which QGIS will be exempt
            from) whereby we will charge a small transaction fee on
            donations, sponsorships, certificates etc. passing through
            the system. We already spent a LOT of time and money on
            building the platform and would like to have it funded so it
            can be sustainable into the future. The monetisation will be
            on top of the stripe commission fees which to participating
            projects will probably mean around an 8% overhead on
            transactions coming through the platform. That is more than
            the do-it yourself stripe approach but we feel the
            convenience of the platform makes that a good value
            proposition.</div>
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    <p>First, thanks a lot! The platform is extremely valuable and fills
      a missing gap in the project. I'm glad to hear you have plans to
      build a sustainable business model around it. If that helps to
      make it grow and pays for its maintenance, that will improve the
      product.<br>
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          <div>Everything is projecta is open source so QGIS could
            conceivably run it on its own infrastructure if you decide
            you don’t like something we are doing….and Richard already
            knows how to get an instance up and running….its not too
            hard.</div>
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    While that certainly sounds interesting, that's not the discussion I
    wanted to trigger here ...<br>
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          <div>Richard has already done an integration to automate the
            sponsorships going into projecta to appear on the <a
              href="http://QGIS.org" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">QGIS.org</a>
            sponsors page (via a feed that we provide on projecta for
            sponsors). We can do this because sponsors can be shown to
            users as static content.</div>
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          <div>Likewise for the changelogs there is a feed to grab them
            from projecta and (with a bit of massaging from Richard)
            incorporate them into <a href="http://QGIS.org" class=""
              moz-do-not-send="true">QGIS.org</a>. We probably want to
            keep this workflow because a) static pages are nice :-) and
            b) once in sphinx the changelogs can be translated using the
            same workflows as the rest of the site.</div>
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          <div>Certification is on projecta and I can’t see it going to
            a static site right now - In the future maybe when we have
            views for ‘upcoming courses near you’ and ‘find a training
            centre’ etc. we could probably pull these over but even that
            probably isnt worth it. We could probably tweak projecta to
            allow custom domains for a project’s certification page
            (e.g. <a href="https://certification.qgis.org" class=""
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://certification.qgis.org</a>).</div>
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    <p>Having Sponsorship and Changelog as static content (mirrored) and
      keep certification dynamic sounds like a good plan.</p>
    <p>Having either a proper subdomain like proposed here and/or (if
      not feasible quickly) move the whole QGIS project to something
      like project.qgis.org which is generic enough to serve for all the
      subparts, that would be great. Especially since the main landing
      page for the changelog is not projecta but the mirrored content on
      the qgis page, it would be good to move things to a different
      subdomain. It would also be nice to have a link on top of
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://changelog.qgis.org/en/qgis/version/3.0.0/">http://changelog.qgis.org/en/qgis/version/3.0.0/</a> etc. that links
      to the mirrored page, once it's there, so people landing on the
      projecta page will be redirected to a translated and updated site
      on qgis.org.</p>
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    <p>The most important question I wanted to raise here is, how can we
      make sure that customers landing on the certification page respect
      it as a trustworthy platform. Things that come to my mind here</p>
    <p>- Having another subdomain than changelog.qgis.org</p>
    <p>- Having SSL (signed with qgis.org)</p>
    <p>- Having a page design that matches qgis.org<br>
    </p>
    <p>- Having a link from qgis.org<br>
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          <div>The same for the lessons platform we build (see <a
              href="http://changelog.qgis.org/en/qgis/section/list/"
              class="" moz-do-not-send="true">http://changelog.qgis.org/en/qgis/section/list/</a>
            for all the new training materials we have been developing
            for QGIS) - we could be pulling this over to <a
              href="http://QGIS.org" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">QGIS.org</a>
            as static content and then incorporating into translation
            workflows there. We have also a translation framework for
            lessons on the platform, but it probably won’t scale well
            for many many languages.</div>
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    <p>Wow, that is looking good! It would be great to advertise this
      more!</p>
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          <div>SSL is on our roadmap for projecta,</div>
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          <div>We are also going to be rebranding it soon as <a
              href="http://prj.app" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">http://prj.app</a>
            (nothing to see there yet) with an on ramping process to
            make it easy for new projects to sign up.</div>
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          <div>We would be happy to tweak things to include custom
            domain support for other parts of the app e.g. <a
              href="http://lessons.qgis.org" class=""
              moz-do-not-send="true">http://lessons.qgis.org</a>. There
            are also other interesting things that we built on the
            platform that never really got used - especially the quorum
            tool which lets you form teams in a project, make and record
            decisions (pre-dated loomio) and has a concencus model built
            in.</div>
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          <div>For <a href="http://QGIS.org" class=""
              moz-do-not-send="true">QGIS.org</a> I would suggest to
            generally keep things as you have it - pull static content
            onto the site and use projecta as backend where you prepare
            content. It is a ‘safe’ way to manage things since once
            content is static, there isnt much that can go wrong and we
            trade a few moving parts in the content preparation phase
            for basically no moving parts in the content delivery stage.</div>
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    Cool, not much to add from my side. I'm generally happy with the
    process as long as a visitor can easily see where the
    "authoritative" version is located and whenever the "authoritative"
    version of a framework is on prj.app it appears trustworthy for a
    visitor.<br>
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          <div>Hope that sheds some light on the big picture view of
            things from project’s side - and hopefully those with other
            published software will consider using Prj.app in the future
            to benefit from all the stuff we have built for <a
              href="http://QGIS.org" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">QGIS.org</a>
            and to help support us in maintaining the platform….</div>
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    </blockquote>
    <p>It does, this platform has a big potential for QGIS but also for
      other projects.</p>
    <p>Best regards</p>
    <p>Matthias<br>
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          <div>Regards</div>
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          <div>Tim</div>
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                                font-variant-numeric: normal;
                                font-variant-alternates: normal;
                                font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin:
                                0px; line-height: normal;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0,
                                0);" class=""><b class="">Tim Sutton</b></div>
                              <div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                                color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                                Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style:
                                normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                                normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
                                center; text-indent: 0px;
                                text-transform: none; white-space:
                                normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                                -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;
                                text-decoration: none;
                                font-variant-ligatures: normal;
                                font-variant-position: normal;
                                font-variant-numeric: normal;
                                font-variant-alternates: normal;
                                font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin:
                                0px; line-height: normal;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                                min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class="">
                              </div>
                              <div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                                color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                                Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style:
                                normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                                normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
                                center; text-indent: 0px;
                                text-transform: none; white-space:
                                normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                                -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;
                                text-decoration: none;
                                font-variant-ligatures: normal;
                                font-variant-position: normal;
                                font-variant-numeric: normal;
                                font-variant-alternates: normal;
                                font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin:
                                0px; line-height: normal;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0,
                                0);" class=""><b class="">Co-founder:</b><span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Kartoza</div>
                              <div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                                color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                                Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style:
                                normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                                normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
                                center; text-indent: 0px;
                                text-transform: none; white-space:
                                normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                                -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;
                                text-decoration: none;
                                font-variant-ligatures: normal;
                                font-variant-position: normal;
                                font-variant-numeric: normal;
                                font-variant-alternates: normal;
                                font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin:
                                0px; line-height: normal;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0,
                                0);" class=""><b class="">Ex Project
                                  chair:</b><span style="font-weight:
                                  normal;" class=""><span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                    href="http://QGIS.org" class=""
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">QGIS.org</a></span></div>
                              <div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                                color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                                Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style:
                                normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                                normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
                                center; text-indent: 0px;
                                text-transform: none; white-space:
                                normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                                -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;
                                text-decoration: none;
                                font-variant-ligatures: normal;
                                font-variant-position: normal;
                                font-variant-numeric: normal;
                                font-variant-alternates: normal;
                                font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin:
                                0px; line-height: normal;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                                min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class="">
                              </div>
                              <div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                                color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                                Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style:
                                normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                                normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
                                center; text-indent: 0px;
                                text-transform: none; white-space:
                                normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                                -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;
                                text-decoration: none;
                                font-variant-ligatures: normal;
                                font-variant-position: normal;
                                font-variant-numeric: normal;
                                font-variant-alternates: normal;
                                font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin:
                                0px; line-height: normal;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0,
                                0);" class="">Visit <a
                                  href="http://kartoza.com/" class=""
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                    style="-webkit-text-stroke-color:
                                    rgb(71, 135, 255);" class="">http://kartoza.com</span></a> to
                                find out about open source:</div>
                              <div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                                color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                                Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style:
                                normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                                normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
                                center; text-indent: 0px;
                                text-transform: none; white-space:
                                normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                                -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;
                                text-decoration: none;
                                font-variant-ligatures: normal;
                                font-variant-position: normal;
                                font-variant-numeric: normal;
                                font-variant-alternates: normal;
                                font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin:
                                0px; line-height: normal;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                                min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class="">
                              </div>
                              <div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                                color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                                Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style:
                                normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                                normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
                                center; text-indent: 0px;
                                text-transform: none; white-space:
                                normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                                -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;
                                text-decoration: none;
                                font-variant-ligatures: normal;
                                font-variant-position: normal;
                                font-variant-numeric: normal;
                                font-variant-alternates: normal;
                                font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin:
                                0px; line-height: normal;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0,
                                0);" class="">Desktop GIS programming
                                services</div>
                              <div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                                color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                                Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style:
                                normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                                normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
                                center; text-indent: 0px;
                                text-transform: none; white-space:
                                normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                                -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;
                                text-decoration: none;
                                font-variant-ligatures: normal;
                                font-variant-position: normal;
                                font-variant-numeric: normal;
                                font-variant-alternates: normal;
                                font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin:
                                0px; line-height: normal;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0,
                                0);" class="">Geospatial web development</div>
                              <div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                                color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                                Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style:
                                normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                                normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
                                center; text-indent: 0px;
                                text-transform: none; white-space:
                                normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                                -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;
                                text-decoration: none;
                                font-variant-ligatures: normal;
                                font-variant-position: normal;
                                font-variant-numeric: normal;
                                font-variant-alternates: normal;
                                font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin:
                                0px; line-height: normal;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0,
                                0);" class="">GIS Training</div>
                              <div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                                color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                                Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style:
                                normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                                normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
                                center; text-indent: 0px;
                                text-transform: none; white-space:
                                normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                                -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;
                                text-decoration: none;
                                font-variant-ligatures: normal;
                                font-variant-position: normal;
                                font-variant-numeric: normal;
                                font-variant-alternates: normal;
                                font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin:
                                0px; line-height: normal;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0,
                                0);" class="">Consulting Services</div>
                              <div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                                color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                                Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style:
                                normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                                normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
                                center; text-indent: 0px;
                                text-transform: none; white-space:
                                normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                                -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;
                                text-decoration: none;
                                font-variant-ligatures: normal;
                                font-variant-position: normal;
                                font-variant-numeric: normal;
                                font-variant-alternates: normal;
                                font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin:
                                0px; line-height: normal;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                                min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class="">
                              </div>
                              <div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                                color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                                Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style:
                                normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                                normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
                                center; text-indent: 0px;
                                text-transform: none; white-space:
                                normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                                -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;
                                text-decoration: none;
                                font-variant-ligatures: normal;
                                font-variant-position: normal;
                                font-variant-numeric: normal;
                                font-variant-alternates: normal;
                                font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin:
                                0px; line-height: normal;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0,
                                0);" class=""><b class="">Skype</b>:
                                timlinux </div>
                              <div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                                color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                                Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style:
                                normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
                                font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
                                normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
                                center; text-indent: 0px;
                                text-transform: none; white-space:
                                normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                                -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;
                                text-decoration: none;
                                font-variant-ligatures: normal;
                                font-variant-position: normal;
                                font-variant-numeric: normal;
                                font-variant-alternates: normal;
                                font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin:
                                0px; line-height: normal;
                                -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0,
                                0);" class=""><b class="">IRC:</b><span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>timlinux
                                on #qgis at <a
                                  href="http://freenode.net" class=""
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">freenode.net</a></div>
                            </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div>
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