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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>+1 for this.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>--<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>James<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> QGIS-Developer <qgis-developer-bounces@lists.osgeo.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>C Hamilton<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 25, 2019 9:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> Paolo Cavallini <cavallini@faunalia.it><br><b>Cc:</b> qgis-developer <qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS 4.0 - let's start some early discussions!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Let me share my experience with the jump from QGIS 2 to QGIS 3. I have been trying to get QGIS used by the US Government and make it an option rather than just relying on ESRI. This has been very difficult but I was making progress. I had offices that were primarily using QGIS and who were developing scripts to handle their work flow. When QGIS 3 came out they got so frustrated with the lack of documentation and the complete break of the API, with no program that would take their scripts and make them QGIS 3 compatible, that they completely abandoned QGIS and went back to ESRI. Despite the fact that I love QGIS 3 and think it is better than QGIS 2, I find there is now less interest in using QGIS. I have less customers then I used to have and it will probably take at least another year or two to get back to where I was at.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I know that as developers we want to continue to improve the code, add new features, and have a fun time. Fun tends not to be associated with documentation. I cannot tell you how important the documentation and training materials are. I would prefer seeing less new features but make sure the documentation is excellent and up-to-date. The PyQGIS documentation really needs a lot of work. It is not sufficient to let the functions and variable names explain what they do. Each variable needs to explained in such a way that the programmer will understand what effect it will have when they change the values. This is one thing that ESRI has done well - provide tons of documentation and training.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I hope these observations will be helpful to you as you plan QGIS 4. I don't want to go through what I have been going through with QGIS 3.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Calvin<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 11:33 AM Paolo Cavallini <<a href="mailto:cavallini@faunalia.it">cavallini@faunalia.it</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Hi all,<br><br>On 25/06/19 13:46, Matthias Kuhn wrote:<br><br>> And with a good communication about a "gentle" break I'm confident that<br>> we'll have it easier this time.<br><br>agreed fully, good communication on these matters is of crucial<br>importance to let people accept new versions at move at the appropriate<br>time, to minimize noise.<br>Given the wide variety of networks, it will be difficult to properly<br>spread the tight word. Maybe we should have *official announcements* in<br>these occasions.<br>Also, I think the already proposed dynamic qgis access page could help a<br>lot here.<br>Cheers.<br>-- <br>Paolo Cavallini - <a href="http://www.faunalia.eu" target="_blank">www.faunalia.eu</a><br><a href="http://QGIS.ORG" target="_blank">QGIS.ORG</a> Chair:<br><a href="http://planet.qgis.org/planet/user/28/tag/qgis%20board/" target="_blank">http://planet.qgis.org/planet/user/28/tag/qgis%20board/</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>QGIS-Developer mailing list<br><a href="mailto:QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>List info: <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>