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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06.08.19 22:42, Tim Sutton wrote:<br>
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Hi
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<div class="">On 2 Aug 2019, at 05:45, Paolo Cavallini <<a
href="mailto:cavallini@faunalia.it" class=""
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<div>In which particular aspect are you right?</div>
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I guess about not being fan of moving to gh...<br>
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none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Although
the practical impact this time is low, I would take this
as a clear signal (after the loomio move, and I expect
more) that we have to change our strategy,</span></div>
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keeping our infrastructure as simple as possible and
avoiding wherever possible to rely on proprietary, non
free, stuff.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
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<div>Loomio is FOSS and we benefited from free hosting. We
could have hosted it ourselves but we chose to not divert
our minimal free time to managing more infrastructure.</div>
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which is something I think we should always strive to (to be clear
not I mean we should not manage even more infrastructure).<br>
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<div> I think it is normal in life that things change and we
need to adapt as they do, really it isn’t a train smash
IMHO.</div>
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<div>GitHub impact is more conceptual than actual as has been
shown in this thread. </div>
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To empathize this even more, let's remember that it is _not_ github,
it is trade sanctions by the US, so it is more a question of where
we host, than bad bad github...<br>
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<div>So sure, lets have a plan B in place, that was always the
long game plan for our code etc. But lets do take our time
and do it right and in a considered way. We reached
agreement in A Coruna to use GitHub for issue tracking and I
don’t think it is constructive to turn around a few months
later and try to roll back on what has been years of painful
and protracted community negotiations and planning to get to
where we are now. </div>
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and as usual, Tim I can't agree more with you.<br>
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<div> IMHO moving to GitHub issues has been a great
improvement for the project - and thanks again especially to
Jorge and friends who did all the heavy lifting!</div>
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<p>That is also the feeling I have and again thanks Jorge and all
for the great work<br>
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<p>Cheers</p>
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