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<pre style="line-height:21.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>> As a user and employee of a French administration, I think what is proposed would be an excellent reminder. Open source is not free.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="line-height:21.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Wrong on so many levels. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">First: GPL = Free Software<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">So since the license of QGIS is GPL, it’s free software.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">“Free Software” means that along with the software, you get the source code for free, included in that is the freedom to change and redistribute it.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Free as in Freedom. That does not mean it’s gratis.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Second: “OpenSource” is not the same as 'Free Software'<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">“OpenSource” merely means you have the source.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">It doesn’t mean you’re allowed to change or redistribute it.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">It also doesn’t mean it’s gratis. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">So “OpenSource” is much worse than GPL./ 'Free Software'.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Third misconception: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Free (as in freedom) doesn’t mean it’s gratis.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">It just means you have the freedom to alter and redistribute the software, provided you abide by the license’s requirements, which means granting the same right to others.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">It also doesn’t mean somebody else does your work for you, or pays somebody else to do your work for you.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Therefore QGIS is indeed free, just not gratis.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">What you mean to say is that Free is not Gratis.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">That’s a truism/platitude.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Also, if you use commercial software, you pay far more for the same, and you don’t have ANY guarantee that ANY bug is fixed, even if you can pay.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">You also cannot usually pay anyone else than the original company to do some work on it, even if somebody else could do the same work far cheaper.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">With commercial software, you also don’t have any guarantee that the product isn’t discontinued tomorrow, or taken into a completely different direction.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">As with plugins:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">As long as they are NOT distributed with the software BY DEFAULT, they don’t necessarily have to abide by the GPL.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">As long as you only use it internally (e.g. on a WebServer), you don’t have to abide by the terms of the GPL (the
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License">Affero</a>/Application-Service-Provider loophole).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE"> QGIS-Developer <qgis-developer-bounces@lists.osgeo.org>
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>JD L<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 7. </span><span lang="EN-US">Januar 2021 10:10<br>
<b>An:</b> Matthias Kuhn <matthias@opengis.ch><br>
<b>Cc:</b> qgis-developer <qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [QGIS-Developer] Stale bot and older requests/issues - possible enhancement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre style="line-height:21.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hi<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="line-height:21.0pt;max-height:999999px;white-space:pre-wrap"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">As a user and employee of a French administration, I think what is proposed would be an excellent reminder. Open source is not free.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Le jeu. 7 janv. 2021 à 09:33, Matthias Kuhn <</span><a href="mailto:matthias@opengis.ch"><span lang="EN-US">matthias@opengis.ch</span></a><span lang="EN-US">> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I would also appreciate a hint like this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Maybe it could be done even more subtle by shortening this text and adding a link to a page "learn how to make things progress"?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I'd also very much appreciate the voices of users on this topic (that's a classical "we don't only want to hear the dev side" topic).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Matthias<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 1:42 AM Nyall Dawson <</span><a href="mailto:nyall.dawson@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">nyall.dawson@gmail.com</span></a><span lang="EN-US">> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi list,<br>
<br>
I've a small request to consider for stale bot and issues/feature<br>
requests. I think that if a ticket remains open for say > 90 days<br>
since the last comment, it would be nice if stale bot added a comment<br>
like:<br>
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"Unfortunately this bug/feature request has not seen any solution in<br>
the recent QGIS release. If this fix/feature is important to you or<br>
your organisation, you can help to fast-track its development by<br>
sponsoring this work. To do so, contact one of the QGIS commercial<br>
support providers listed at ... to discuss how you could fund this<br>
functionality".<br>
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I think it's a non-threatening, non-begging way to advise bug<br>
reporters on the alternative ways they can fast track development in<br>
QGIS.<br>
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Thoughts?<br>
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Nyall<br>
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