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<p>Hi Joeri,</p>
<p>I just checked the OSGeo4W Network installer
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/alldownloads.html#osgeo4w-installer">https://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/alldownloads.html#osgeo4w-installer</a>)
where pandas it still available:</p>
<p><img src="cid:part1.6srFi01x.Bh2XwiQq@geo.hu-berlin.de" alt=""></p>
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<p>Grertings, <br>
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<p>Benjamin<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 28.03.2023 um 10:35 schrieb Joeri
van Engelen via QGIS-Developer:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">We’re developing and maintaining a plugin
heavily relying on the Python package ‘pandas’.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">About ~98% of our users are using Windows.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">Pandas was included in the Windows RC and LTR
installers versions at least from versions 3.18 to 3.28,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">(and probably even before that
<a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/32212"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/32212</a>
).
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">With the OSGeo4W installer, users had to make
sure to python3-pandas was installed by checking the right
box themselves,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">but this was no issue for us, since we saw this
as an installation procedure for more advanced users.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">It seems that pandas has been dropped in the
3.30 RC installer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US"><a
href="https://github.com/Deltares/imod-qgis/issues/30#issuecomment-1485262436"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/Deltares/imod-qgis/issues/30#issuecomment-1485262436</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">Which creates a hurdle for our new users, who
are new to QGIS
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">(more complex installation procedure with the
OSGeo4W installer).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">My questions therefore are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">Was it a conscious decision to drop the
pandas package from the RC installer? Or an accident?<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">If conscious, what were the reasons to do
this? (just out of interest)<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Gill Sans
MT",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:NL">Joeri van
Engelen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
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