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<p>Hi Johannes and Lova,</p>
<p>The current reality is that the QGIS PSC is using Google infrastructure (Google Drive, Google Mail, youtube channels; sometimes Google Meet) quite extensively. It wouldn't be so easy to swap things out. In the PSC meetings we use JITSI, but for the QGIS Open Day it is also Google infrastructure, as it scales better for more users. We also use GSOC in order to bring in new developers.</p>
<p>We know that some people don't like our usage of Google services, but we also need to be pragmatic. Doing more things ourselves with open source tools or other alternatives would be possible, but would mean that we can spend less time directly on improving QGIS.</p>
<p>Greetings,<br />Andreas</p>
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<p>Hi Lova,</p>
<p>if I understand it right, using smtp.gmail.com *will* send all mails via Google. I don't know which SMTP host is currently used.</p>
<p>Looking at the MX records of qgis.org it seems like Google is used already anyways so I might be barking up an old and rotten tree. :(</p>
<p>It really should not be any of Google's business when people communicate with qgis.org addresses.</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>Cheers, Hannes</p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal">Thanks for your feedback. I appreciate that.</p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal">> Does this mean that Gmail will be involved in all those mails?</p>
<p class="v1MsoNormal">I apologise for that. Indeed, we propose using smtp.gmail.com as EMAIL_HOST instead of smtp to fix the email-sending feature since it sometimes goes into the spam folder.</p>
<p class="v1MsoNormal">However, I think this won't change the account type because we use the same as the current email and keep the part `@qgis.org` unless I'm mistaken. But maybe my PR's name doesn't reflect that. For now, I will update the PR and convert it to a draft.</p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal">> Can't a OSGeo mail account be used instead?</p>
<p class="v1MsoNormal">I'm not sure of the answer to this, sorry. </p>
<p class="v1MsoNormal"><span>Dear <a id="v1OWAAMFC1157CA1DCDF841B997DD0170634256" href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" rel="noreferrer"> <span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; text-decoration: none;">@Tim Sutton</span></a>, </span>could you please advise me on that?<span> Thank you.</span></p>
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<p>Hey Lova,</p>
<p>thanks for all your great work!</p>
<p>This caught my eye:</p>
<p><span style="color: #1b1b1b;">> <a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/pull/356" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Use Gmail as the email provider</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #1b1b1b;">Does this mean that Gmail will be involved in all those mails? I would be strongly against proactively exposing any data to such a company if not absolutely necessary.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #1b1b1b;">Can't a OSGeo mail account be used instead?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #1b1b1b;">It's bad enough that so much mail is already centralized and thus available to a single party/company but as long as a user is not willingly using Gmail themselves already, it would be great if Google (or any other similar third party) was not involved in such mails.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #1b1b1b;">Cheers, Hannes</span></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal" style="font-variant-caps: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #1b1b1b;">I'm starting a new thread because the previous one exceeds the limit. I've included for you a report which details the progress made this week on the development of the plugin and feed website.</span></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal" style="font-variant-caps: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;"><strong><span style="color: #1b1b1b;">New PR for the plugins website:</span></strong></p>
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<li class="v1MsoNormal" style="color: #1d1d1d; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo1;"><a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/pull/360" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Add local timezone to <span>XML</span></a><span>: this is a fix for <a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/issues/353" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> #353</a></span></li>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal" style="font-variant-caps: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;"><strong><span style="color: #1b1b1b;">New PRs for the feed website:</span></strong></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal"><span style="color: #1b1b1b;">Next week, I will try to plan the deployment of some of these PRs. I will also continue to implement the components developed by Kontur on the QGIS Feed website.</span></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal" style="font-variant-caps: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #1b1b1b;">Have a great weekend,</span></p>
<p class="v1MsoNormal" style="font-variant-caps: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #1b1b1b;">Lova</span></p>
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