[Qgis-psc] Updated financial information

Luigi Pirelli luipir at gmail.com
Wed Apr 11 06:38:02 PDT 2018


I've 2.9% (basing on chapters I wrote) and I already received various bills
that overpassed 75$ or pounds or whatelse... so, at least for Mastering
QGIS, it should more than that! Do they send an quarterly review of book
they sold?

Luigi Pirelli

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On 11 April 2018 at 15:14, Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org> wrote:

> Hi Luigi,
>
> I think there is a "threshold value" per book title - not for all books
> together. As long as the accumulated royalties (per title) do not surpass
> 75 £, they do not pay out the royalties. Correct, Anita? So, it doesn't
> help to have a lot of titles on QGIS, if no title by itself is popular
> enough to surpass the 75 £ threshold. I don't know how many copies have to
> be  sold to reach 75 £ royalties. Royalties are 2% from the overall sales
> by title.
>
> Andreas
>
>
>
>
> On 11 April 2018 at 13:32, Luigi Pirelli <luipir at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Adnreas,
>>
>> I can't find how much was the % for QGIS packt books... but 200€ seems
>> really a low income, especially because they have many QGIS titles. The
>> questions are:
>>
>> 1) what is the %
>> 2) was on all QGIS titles or only on specific ones?
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Luigi Pirelli
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>> On 11 April 2018 at 08:14, Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear PSC,
>>>
>>> The accounting document is now up-to-date:
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VOt4RFJkJ7LaTAnEGmQ2
>>> VB1DZT8Q9Ior-b_uBAVP8YQ/edit#gid=1008844512
>>>
>>> For those who don't have much time - you can see the summary: aggregated
>>> numbers in categories in comparison with 2018 budget proposal:
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WphBgUOx0abTJ_33jRVq
>>> FTkRU7KYrg8GyBLFdkYC2hw/edit#gid=0
>>>
>>> Some comments:
>>>
>>>    - We spent more on QGIS 3.0 bug fixing than budgeted already. There
>>>    are still so many open problems with QGIS 3.x, if you look into the bug
>>>    tracker. So - Paolo - if you could do the Call for Donations / Sponsorships
>>>    - as discussed in the last meeting - to help finance open issues, it would
>>>    really help!
>>>    - Expenses on dev meetings are generally cheaper than budgeted. F.e.
>>>    for Madeira we budgeted 7k, but only 3.3k are spent so far.
>>>    - There is about 4k additional sponsorship money to be expected in
>>>    the next 1-2 days.
>>>    - One positive surprise: Spreadshirt is generating more income than
>>>    expected
>>>    - One negative issue: training certificates are not doing well. Not
>>>    a single one sold so far.
>>>    - The Packt Publishing royalty scheme is also not generating much
>>>    income at the moment. Seems the QGIS books don't sell so well. We didn't
>>>    pass the tresholds so far on them when they would pay out the royalty money.
>>>
>>> Finally an example on how much we loose during a PayPal sponsorship or
>>> donation payment:
>>>
>>> Take for example a sponsorship money from Canada (Chartwell Consultants):
>>>
>>> They pay 500 €. In our PayPal account, this arrives as 477.65 €. So
>>> PayPal earned 22.35 € (4.5%)  on that single small payment! Later, when
>>> this money is transferred to our bank account, they convert that remaining
>>> 477.65 to CHF and my bank is converting it back to €, because our account
>>> runs in €. All of my attempts to convince PayPal to not do the unnecessary
>>> payment failed so far. In their simple view of the world - there is one
>>> single currency per country - they can't change that view of their world!
>>> The amount that arrives in our bank account after the unnecessary currency
>>> conversion (€ --> CHF --> €) is € 457.35. Again  - PayPal - and our bank -
>>> is earning money during this unnecessary currency conversion. So from 500 €
>>> we loose overall 9.14 percent. Don't you think this is almost a criminal
>>> act from PayPal and our bank? How can it be justified that they earn >9 %
>>> from a single payment?
>>>
>>> On the other hand - if this payment was made as a SEPA payment from
>>> within Europe the full amount of 500 € would appear in our bank account.
>>> Not a single cent would be lost.
>>>
>>> For me, this is an incentive to a) convince people to uses SEPA payments
>>> (direct bank transfers) where possible and b) move to Stripe for credit
>>> card payments (where necessary - for payments outside of Europe) as quickly
>>> as possible. They don't do the unnecessary currency conversions and their
>>> overall fees are lower. We would loose only 3-4 percent instead of >9.
>>>
>>> Thanks and greetings,
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andreas Neumann
>>> QGIS.ORG board member (treasurer)
>>>
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> Andreas Neumann
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