[Qgis-psc] Suggesting a rule for travel refunds at Zanzibar meeting

[Paolo Cavallini]

Hi all,
I fully agree on Andreas and Richard comments, and also think a post
resuming activities should be made a standard requirement.
All the best.

Il 08/07/2018 17:11, Tim Sutton ha scritto:
> Hi
> 
> 
> In addition to Richard’s great comments below, why not require funded
> persons to write a summary of their activities for the QGIS blog? That
> way we can get a nice report back of activities….
> 
> Regards
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On 07 Jul 2018, at 14:43, Richard Duivenvoorde <rdmailings at duif.net
>> <mailto:rdmailings at duif.net>> wrote:
>>
>> On 07/07/2018 10:19 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>>> Dear PSC members,
>>>
>>> As people fill in their requests for travel support - see
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FkqjzjRWlnTS2AVxSpJM-UtkRafPYUqQOMlvjlzkzlY/edit#gid=1896805420
>>>
>>>
>>> I have the following suggestion for people who visit both the Zanzibar
>>> dev meeting and the FOSS4G:
>>>
>>>  * QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG> would only pay half of the airfare, as
>>>    that person also goes to FOSS4G
>>>  * QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG> would pay the accommodation costs in
>>>    Zanzibar during the meeting and potentially the ferry back to Dar
>>>  * QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG> would certainly pay for the local food
>>>    expenses in Zanzibar at the meeting, as usually
>>>
>>>
>>> Would you agree with this proposal?
>>
>> I kind of agree with this. By paying half of your trip/accomodation
>> yourself, you also show you are eager to come.
>>
>> There is the argument about being friendly and inviting to new people,
>> but I think we just do not have the funding to be THAT inviting. I also
>> don't think it is fair to people who are able to or just pay there own
>> fare.
>>
>> I also tend to be a little more strict to people for who we fund:
>>
>> We have funded people earlier which came to socialize: a good thing!
>> We funded people who then worked on their own plugins: nice!
>> We funded people we never seen/spoke to earlier: good!
>>
>> But sponsoring coming in at 10 euro per sponsor, funding a new comer for
>> 1500 euro, that is a lot of sponsors...
>>
>> I think we should get some effort back from people who are funded.
>> Mostly we know the people, but even then, in my view we should ask back
>> something in return.
>> Is it wrong to ask for people to 'fight their selves in' a little? By
>> either (before(!) asking for funding) show us they are
>> QGIS/community-minded, so fixed some issues, wrote something, or did
>> other (non paid) community work?
>>
>> And even if you did not do such things... Please(!) still come to the
>> hackfests: they are fun!!!!
>>
>> But in my view we should not fund rookies (unless they did some homework
>> beforehand).
>>
>> It should be clear to people, there is no free-ride: first make yourself
>> useful before asking for (sponsor) money.
>>
>> And off course every 'rule' should have it's exceptions :-)
>>
>> I think as PSC we also talked about that: if somebody has 'references'
>> or 'recommendations' from somebody else from the community, Andreas/psc
>> should be able to fund such people.
>> And for people we know that they do A LOT of community work, PSC should
>> be able to fully refund them (talking about you ....).
>> And as our finances are pretty transparent: let people have a look at
>> our 'books' and let PSC know if you thing we fund too much OR too little!
>>
>> Last @Andreas: thanks for doing this 'dirty' work!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Duivenvoorde
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