[Qgis-psc] QGIS for Mac OS packaging and infrastructure
Saber Razmjooei
saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk
Wed Feb 20 12:54:45 PST 2019
Hi Richard,
tld;r: we need to make a decision and move forward, otherwise this will end
up in the same place as the others.
I totally agree with you in what you said. That's why we had asked the PSC
in Dec 2018 before we embarked on this work to come up with a decision.
Our work is based on all the hard work of others, so not much lost.
I fully understand the hurdles, costs and restrictions with Apple
development environment. So, if you (as QGIS.org) decide not to support
their platform, it is understandable. But to be inclusive, I feel we should
help users on all platforms, with an easy way of installing and using the
software.
For us (Lutra) as a company, there is no money to be made for packaging and
selling binaries (unless we call it iQGIS :)). In fact, it was a charity
work and didn't cover our costs. It took up most of Peter Petirk's time
with a boring task of packaging instead of exciting new features in QGIS :)
There are organisations and individuals who will rely heavily on QGIS for
macOS and I am sure you will receive more donations which will help with
the ongoing costs. I will leave the decision of cloud macOS or a laptop
with you. But we can cover the cost of a cloud-based macOS until October
2019.
Kind regards,
Saber
On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 19:55, Richard Duivenvoorde <rdmailings at duif.net>
wrote:
> Hi Saber,
>
> Thanks for all this work!
>
> tldr; WHO WANTS TO DO IT :-)
>
> Though the 600 / year is probably ok for PSC, I think we really need a
> maintainer who wants(! aka really needs) to maintain the server + build
> process. I'm not an Apple owner so I pass.
>
> Off course it could be a chicken/egg problem, but as everything in
> Apple-land costs money (developing (licenses to get the software),
> certificates, building infrastructure etc) would it not be a better fit
> if a company tries to do this (preferably(?) in a profitable way)?
>
> Also because this is a re-occurring issue: some people try to create a
> package (Kynchaos did, Larry did, Matthias did, now lutra did) in their
> favorite apple build tool chain/form, then loose interest/time (no
> offence meant here!) and we are at zero again. Though to be honest I
> think every time the result is better :-)
>
> Last: would it not be cheaper to buy an Apple Mac mini (900 dollar),
> build locally and then upload to one of our download sources? Or let a
> good Apple user hang it to the interwebs?
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Duivenvoorde
>
> On 20/02/2019 20.20, Saber Razmjooei wrote:
> > Hi Andreas,
> >
> > Python is fully functional and we have mirrored the same python packages
> > available on OSGeo4W to be shipped with the installer.
> >
> > The best way of handling the macOS server, is to have it sourced
> > externally. The one we are using is pretty good for compilation, upload
> > and download bandwidth and storage (~50$ / month). We are happy to
> > hand-over this server to you.
> >
> > The maintenance should be minimal. If we can clean up the scripts (as
> > per Peter's suggestion), it should be straightforward to maintain. We
> > are happy to (help to) maintain the package.
> >
> > For sure, we can use OSGeo certificate. I am not sure who is in
> > possession of the certificate. This subject has come up several times.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Saber
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 15:24, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net
> > <mailto:a.neumann at carto.net>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > Thanks for your reply.
> >
> > So Python works in MacOS 10.13 and 10.14? Do we have an idea if
> > 10.11 and 10.12 are still in use a lot? If not, we could probably
> > skip this and do the other two things.
> >
> > I have no idea who could help setting up the Mojave Server. The rest
> > of our infrastructure runs on Hetzner and OSGeo hardware - there are
> > no MacOS machines available at these hosters. So it would be a new
> > thing added to the QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG> infrastructure.
> >
> > I assume that the dropbox thing should be the easiest part. We
> > already have Dropbox set up for some PSC files. Regarding the
> > certificate: can we use the OSGeo certificates?
> >
> > Also - do we have an idea who would maintain the thing, once it is
> > set up? We can include it in the 2020 budget, if we can find out how
> > much work it will be to maintain ... So we can help fund the
> > packaging, but we need a responsible person who can do it - and I am
> > afraid the current PSC can't take that responsibility.
> >
> > The PSC people who know best about the infrastructure are Richard
> > and Jürgen - so I'd like to hear their comments about moving the
> > MacOS packaging over the QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG>.
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> > Am 20.02.19 um 16:14 schrieb Peter Petrik:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> thank you and let me add my estimates
> >>
> >> - Lack of Python support for macOS 10.11 and 10.12 This is very
> >> highly uncertain task since I got no response from python comunity
> >> (https://bugs.python.org/issue31601) and I will need to do some
> >> tests if I can somehow work around it. My preference is to have 1
> >> day for investigation to come up with the solution/workaround or
> >> at least understand the scope of the issue.
> >>
> >> - Unable to transfer of the infrastructure and automatic builds
> >> under QGIS.orgAssuming we have working Mojave server with remote
> >> desktop access, certificate and dropbox ready, it would take a day
> >> to finish the documentation of the package and another day to
> >> install the packager to the new server.
> >> - from Tim: Ability to add python packages (maybe adding another
> >> python path to directory in the user’s current profile path
> >> This is trivial change for few minutes.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Peter
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 2:54 PM Andreas Neumann
> >> <a.neumann at carto.net <mailto:a.neumann at carto.net>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Saber,
> >>
> >> There was discussion to help fund the remaining "severe"
> >> issues you have around the MacOS builds.
> >>
> >> Can you provide us estimates on how much funds are needed to
> >> finish the following three items (skipping the GRASS issues
> >> for now - can be handled later):
> >>
> >> - Lack of Python support for macOS 10.11 and 10.12 - Unable to
> >> transfer of the infrastructure and automatic builds under
> >> QGIS.org- from Tim: Ability to add python packages (maybe
> >> adding another python path to directory in the user’s current
> >> profile path
> >>
> >> ?
> >>
> >> With respect to additional small donations I got: this adds up
> >> to approx 100-200 € earmarked towards MacOS. I can forward
> >> this to Lutra, however, if the PSC decides, we might also fund
> >> more, so you are able to finish the above three items.
> >>
> >> With respect to Tim's crash:
> >>
> >> - Getting a crash when trying to move dock widgets around (in
> >> current LTR build)
> >>
> >> Is there a ticket? If yes, this can be handled during the
> >> normal bug fixing cycles. We just treat MacOS like all the
> >> other platforms. Nothing special about it.
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >> Andreas
> >>
> >> Am 20.02.19 um 13:11 schrieb Saber Razmjooei:
> >>>
> >>> Dear PSC, Following our earlier email about QGIS packages for
> >>> macOS, we ran a crowdfunding campaign. Unfortunately, we did
> >>> not raise enough fund to carry out the work we had intended.
> >>> We had to reduce the scope of our work. Below are the known
> >>> issues/limitations: - Lack of Python support for macOS 10.11
> >>> and 10.12 - Unable to transfer of the infrastructure and
> >>> automatic builds under QGIS.org - GRASS support in the
> >>> Processing toolbox: most of the modules should work. But
> >>> GRASS 7.6 is not fully compatible with Python 3.x and hence
> >>> some of the algorithms might fail. This will be fixed after
> >>> GRASS 7.8 release. For more details, see here:
> >>>
> https://www.lutraconsulting.co.uk/blog/2019/02/19/qgis-for-macos-update/
> >>>
> >>> https://lutraconsulting.github.io/qgis-mac-packager/ If you’d
> >>> like to publish the packages, we will need the server details
> >>> where you’d like us to upload the binaries. If the build
> >>> infrastructure should be moved under QGIS.org, we will need
> >>> QGIS (OSGeo) Apple Developers Certificate, macOS Mojave
> >>> Server with right to install XCode and related packages and
> >>> funds to clean, document and deploy packaging code to the
> >>> official server. Kind regards Saber
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 07:10, Larry Shaffer
> >>> <larrys at dakotacarto.com <mailto:larrys at dakotacarto.com>>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Nyall, et al.,
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 3:16 PM Nyall Dawson
> >>> <nyall.dawson at gmail.com <mailto:nyall.dawson at gmail.com>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 07:42, Tim Sutton
> >>> <tim at kartoza.com <mailto:tim at kartoza.com>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi
> >>> >
> >>> > Ah you are right - thanks! I see the QGIS group
> >>> widgets have an issue with tehtext staying black in
> >>> dark mode whilst native Qt widgets correctly show
> >>> their text in white.
> >>>
> >>> It's this line:
> >>>
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/app/qgisappstylesheet.cpp#L130
> >>>
> >>> I suspect ALL of that custom group box styling should
> >>> be removed.
> >>> Trawling through the git history it's over 6 years
> >>> old, and I strongly
> >>> suspect that the original styling issues it was
> >>> designed to workaround
> >>> are no longer a problem (and that the custom styling
> >>> is causing more
> >>> issues now than it is fixing)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Indeed. That effort was to bridge issues with different
> >>> platforms, in an attempt to make things look similar. It
> >>> is no doubt antiquated by now.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Larry Shaffer
> >>> Dakota Cartography
> >>> Black Hills, South Dakota
> >>>
> >>> Nyall
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > Regards
> >>> >
> >>> > Tim
> >>> >
> >>> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 5:29 PM Denis Rouzaud
> >>> <denis.rouzaud at gmail.com
> >>> <mailto:denis.rouzaud at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hi Tim,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Are you sure it's the QGIS night mapping theme and
> >>> not the new look of Qt for Dark Theme?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Cheers,
> >>> >> Denis
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Le jeu. 13 déc. 2018 à 11:14, Tim Sutton
> >>> <tim at kartoza.com <mailto:tim at kartoza.com>> a écrit :
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Hi
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Tested with 3.4.2 from last night - still stuck
> >>> in night mapping mode :-(
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Regards
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Tim
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On 13 Dec 2018, at 10:31, Tim Sutton
> >>> <tim at kartoza.com <mailto:tim at kartoza.com>> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Hi
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Brilliant thanks - downloading now!
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Regards
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Tim
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On 13 Dec 2018, at 09:16, Saber Razmjooei
> >>> <saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk
> >>> <mailto:saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk>> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Hi Tim,
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Both 3.4.2 and master are now built with Qt 5.12.
> >>> Feel free to give them a try and let us know if you
> >>> have any other issues.
> >>> >>>
> https://lutraconsulting.github.io/qgis-mac-packager/
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Cheers
> >>> >>> Saber
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 19:24, Tim Sutton
> >>> <tim at kartoza.com <mailto:tim at kartoza.com>> wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Cool, thanks!
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 5:34 PM Peter Petrik
> >>> <peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk
> >>> <mailto:peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk>> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> qt 5.12 is on my list too:) But both of these
> >>> are rather small issues with < 1/2 day to solve.
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> P.
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 3:14 PM Denis Rouzaud
> >>> <denis.rouzaud at gmail.com
> >>> <mailto:denis.rouzaud at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> I would propose not to offer multiple
> >>> installer. The situation is already complex enough.
> >>> We should at least clearly promote one as the default
> >>> one.
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> Regarding the night mapping theme, it is a
> >>> very short time issue (QGIS is unusable in default
> >>> theme under Mac OS with Dark Theme with Qt < 5.12).
> >>> >>>>>> I have just updated to Qt 5.12, I am
> >>> automatically back to default theme and it looks much
> >>> better!
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>> >>>>>> Denis
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> Le mar. 11 déc. 2018 à 09:18, Tim Sutton
> >>> <tim at kartoza.com <mailto:tim at kartoza.com>> a écrit :
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Hi
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> On 11 Dec 2018, at 09:42, Saber Razmjooei
> >>> <saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk
> >>> <mailto:saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk>> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Dear PSC,
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> From the meeting notes [1], it seems the
> >>> motion for the PSC to absorb the cost (Point 2 in my
> >>> email) has been accepted.
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Could you clarify:
> >>> >>>>>>> 1- The PSC is not funding the initial work
> >>> (Point 1). If so, we'd like to run a crowd-funding
> >>> campaign. Any promotion from QGIS.org is highly
> >>> appreciated.
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> 2- From 3.6 release, the packages generated
> >>> from the above packaging process will be used under
> >>> the official download page. This is for our
> >>> resourcing and crowd-funding purposes, so that we can
> >>> have everything in place before 3.6 release.
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Just on this, can I propose we put both your
> >>> and William’s packages there for the time being?
> >>> There are some technical differences between the
> >>> packaging approaches that mean that some users may
> >>> seek out specifically Williams or Lutra’s packages.
> >>> My understanding from William is that some of these
> >>> can be resolved while others cannot easily. For
> >>> example you cannot install pip packages into the QGIS
> >>> code signed bundle. Currently with the Lutra packages
> >>> I am still locked into night mapping theme which I
> >>> need to file a ticket about still :-P We could
> >>> collaboratively provide some test with the download
> >>> outlining which installer is appropriate for which
> >>> user type.
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Regards
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Tim
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> ---
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Tim Sutton
> >>> >>>>>>> tim at qgis.org <mailto:tim at qgis.org>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>> >>>>>>> Qgis-psc mailing list
> >>> >>>>>>> Qgis-psc at lists.osgeo.org
> >>> <mailto:Qgis-psc at lists.osgeo.org>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> --
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> Denis Rouzaud
> >>> >>>>>> denis at opengis.ch <mailto:denis at opengis.ch>
> >>> >>>>>> +41 76 370 21 22
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>> >>>>>> Qgis-psc mailing list
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> >>> <mailto:Qgis-psc at lists.osgeo.org>
> >>> >>>>>>
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> --
> >>> >>>>
> >>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Tim Sutton
> >>> >>>> Visit http://kartoza.com to find out about open
> >>> source:
> >>> >>>> * Desktop GIS programming services
> >>> >>>> * Geospatial web development
> >>> >>>> * GIS Training
> >>> >>>> * Consulting Services
> >>> >>>> Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at
> >>> freenode.net <http://freenode.net>
> >>> >>>> Tim is a member of the QGIS Project Steering
> >>> Committee
> >>> >>>>
> >>>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>> Afrispatial
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> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> --
> >>> >>> Saber Razmjooei
> >>> >>> www.lutraconsulting.co.uk
> >>> <http://www.lutraconsulting.co.uk>
> >>> >>> +44 (0)7568 129733
> >>> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> —
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> <KartozaNewLogoThumbnail.jpg>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Tim Sutton
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Co-founder: Kartoza
> >>> >>> Ex Project chair: QGIS.org
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Visit http://kartoza.com to find out about open
> >>> source:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Desktop GIS programming services
> >>> >>> Geospatial web development
> >>> >>> GIS Training
> >>> >>> Consulting Services
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Skype: timlinux
> >>> >>> IRC: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net
> >>> <http://freenode.net>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> —
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Tim Sutton
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Co-founder: Kartoza
> >>> >>> Ex Project chair: QGIS.org
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Visit http://kartoza.com to find out about open
> >>> source:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Desktop GIS programming services
> >>> >>> Geospatial web development
> >>> >>> GIS Training
> >>> >>> Consulting Services
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Skype: timlinux
> >>> >>> IRC: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net
> >>> <http://freenode.net>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>> >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Denis Rouzaud
> >>> >> denis at opengis.ch <mailto:denis at opengis.ch>
> >>> >> +41 76 370 21 22
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> >
> >>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >
> >>> > Tim Sutton
> >>> > Visit http://kartoza.com to find out about open
> source:
> >>> > * Desktop GIS programming services
> >>> > * Geospatial web development
> >>> > * GIS Training
> >>> > * Consulting Services
> >>> > Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at
> >>> freenode.net <http://freenode.net>
> >>> > Tim is a member of the QGIS Project Steering
> Committee
> >>> >
> >>>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> > Kartoza is a merger between Linfiniti and Afrispatial
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> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Saber Razmjooei
> >>> www.lutraconsulting.co.uk <http://www.lutraconsulting.co.uk>
> >>> +44 (0)7568 129733
> >>>
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> > --
> > Saber Razmjooei
> > www.lutraconsulting.co.uk <http://www.lutraconsulting.co.uk>
> > +44 (0)7568 129733
> >
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