[Qgis-psc] QGIS for Mac OS packaging and infrastructure

Saber Razmjooei saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk
Tue Mar 26 08:28:56 PDT 2019


Hi Alessandro,


We have some altruistic motives :)

Seriously though, from business point of view, it is not something we want
to pursue. We have an obligation to keep the current packages going until
October this year. After that, if nothing is decided, we will plan to shut
down the whole thing. All the noise is to make sure, the effort is not lost!

I can understand if QGIS does not want to handle macOS. But, as a the
application is becoming more and more popular, the "expectation" is to have
the packages working on all major platforms. More users, bigger community,
more bug reports, more funded feature requests, more sponsorship...better
brand/name. Not all of those fit with one single QGIS core organisation.

Kind regards
Saber


On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 14:39, Alessandro Pasotti <apasotti at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 3:26 PM Peter Petrik <
> peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Dear PSC,
>>
>> We have published a QEP [1] as follow up of our discussions in A Coruña
>> and mailing-list [2] about the topic of transfer of qgis-mac-packager MacOS
>> packaging system to QGIS.org
>>
>> Envisioned solution offers CI (travis) that builds the package on every
>> commit and therefore could be managed similarly to every other QGIS
>> development. It is not dependent on any external Mac Server and will very
>> likely to be more convenient for other people from QGIS community to
>> contribute. Denis Rouzaud can join the initiative and work on CI
>> integration part if this motion go forwards. We estimate the effort at 20
>> days. Considering the incertitude regarding the CI part, we add a security
>> margin of 5 days which will invoiced only if used.
>>
>> We tried to crowdfund the first part of transition, but we managed to
>> receive just about 50% of the desired amount. Therefore we do not see much
>> potential to try again crowdfunding. We will continue to support and
>> release the unofficial Lutra package until October 2019.
>>
>> If PSC see some ways forward with this motion, Lutra Consulting will be
>> more than happy to implement the proposed solution together with OPENGIS.ch.
>>
>> We appreciate to have the discussion to the point(s) raised in this email
>> and related to this QEP.
>>
>> Peter, Saber and Denis
>> [1] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Enhancement-Proposals/issues/143
>> [2]
>> http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/QGIS-for-Mac-OS-packaging-and-infrastructure-td5387752.html
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>
>
>
> Ok I know this may sound heretic (please don't send me to the stake or my
> kids will starve), but did you consider selling the Mac packages for a
> small fee?
>
> I mean it's absolutely fair that you require a compensation for all you
> hard work on the Mac stuff, you well deserve it, but I'm not sure this
> should be on the general QGIS.org budget.
>
> The rationale is that the we all know the reasons why developing on Mac is
> so expensive (well, Mac is so expensive in general) and I think that Mac
> users should pay for the most of it, not all the users.
>
>
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