[Qgis-psc] QGIS for Mac OS packaging and infrastructure

[Nyall Dawson]

On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 02:09, Luigi Pirelli <luipir at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I'm not in general in favor of fees on a free (as freedom) project, but in win or linux env, we do not have to pay Apple to sign the application of buy a dedicated hardware to perform CI! (revolutionary tax)
> I'm in favor of a fee considering the fact that OSX (not mac) users didn't want to crowdfund the packaging of support OSX costs for CI (mostly US market). In Win env (now) there is a good dev community that can compile and help build documentation and debug. The only effort on OSX package is lutra's contribution (AFAIK) => there is no a fair balance!
> IMHO spend project funds to a packaging process that nor their user want to support is like continuing to give support to QGIS package for Win XP that is no supported nor by M$.
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> More, with Apple moving more to an entertainment company we should consider it carefully... IMHO project funds for a packaging that are strictly dependent to commercial decisions is too risky! (remember all harware lost changing apple powerPC to intel processors 10 years ago).

Can I respectful ask that we leave ALL consideration of Apple as a
company out of these discussions? I don't think they are relevant in
any way for our end users, or their experience and utility of QGIS.

This is obviously a tricky discussion, but this is a public forum and
we should avoid all negative talk about MacOS, Apple, and especially
the users of this platform. We have (and always will have) users on
MacOS, and we should keep the discussion focused entirely on how we as
a project can best serve these valued users, and the
technical/financial approach needed to give them a good QGIS
experience.

Nyall


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> On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 16:36, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
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>> Hi
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>> On 26 Mar 2019, at 14:39, Alessandro Pasotti <apasotti at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Ok I know this may sound heretic (please don't send me to the stake or my kids will starve), but did you consider selling the Mac packages for a small fee?
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>> I mean it's absolutely fair that you require a compensation for all you hard work on the Mac stuff, you well deserve it, but I'm not sure this should be on the general QGIS.org budget.
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>> The rationale is that the we all know the reasons why developing on Mac is so expensive (well, Mac is so expensive in general) and I think that Mac users should pay for the most of it, not all the users.
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>> As a totally biased MacOS user I’m -1 for this. I don’t think supporting packages on Windows or Linux is really any cheaper, just that we had a willing volunteer (Jürgen and others for other Linux derivatives) who contributed a lot of effort for free. I would really not like to see that we single out one platform and start charging for packages it.
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>> Regards
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>> Tim
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