[Qgis-psc] Fwd: [qgis/QGIS-Enhancement-Proposals] Support SAP HANA databases in QGIS (#151)

[Paolo Cavallini]

Agreed fully.
Thanks.

On 12/09/19 12:14, Nyall Dawson wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 20:07, Matthias Kuhn <matthias at opengis.ch> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Paolo,
>>
>> It looks very good and covers the most important points, good job.
>>
>>
>> Just some small remarks:
>>
>> - I wonder if we could shorten the testing platform to a generic
>> requirement like "the provider needs to be integrated into our CI
>> infrastructure, and any related maintenance, licensing and hosting costs
>> need to be fully covered". I think we don't need to go into technical
>> details in this organizational level emails.
>>
>> - I would not mention "donated time" from any one of us and provide a
>> link to https://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/commercial_support.html ,
>> that's where any external party can get the best bang for the buck if
>> things should get done
> 
> +1 to this. It's entirely unreasonable for a commercial organisation
> like SAP to count on any of our "donated time".
> 
> Nyall
> 
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>> Matthias
>>
>> On 9/12/19 10:54 AM, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'd like to finalize the reply ASAP. Please send comments to the following.
>>> Cheers.
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Dear xxxx
>>>
>>> We wanted to reach out to you regarding your proposed patch for QGIS to
>>> add support for Hana. As you have probably realised, there have been
>>> some concerns raised about the integration of this code. We don’t
>>> believe these are insurmountable but we would like to ask you if you
>>> could respond on a few points as outlined below.
>>>
>>> * Testing platform: Currently it is difficult for us to test the work
>>> you have done since we do not have a test / sandbox instance of the
>>> provider that we can use to try it out. Could we ask you to provide us
>>> with a perpetually available Hana database instance that we can use to
>>> test your provider both now and in the future? It would be ideal if you
>>> could set up and maintain this instance for us and simply supply the
>>> connection details since we do not have the time or expertise to manage
>>> this from within the community. We also ask that you waive any licensing
>>> fees for this test platform so that it is freely available to the
>>> project. The testing platform needs to be accessible via our CI
>>> infrastructure, and you should include unit tests implementing the
>>> provider conformance suite which run on our CI.
>>> * Community participation: We would like to ask if you can send one or
>>> more of your developer team members to attend our regular QGIS
>>> Contributor Meetings (next one planned for spring 2020 in The
>>> Netherlands) - details will be added to our wiki soon:
>>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/wiki. We ask this because we would a) like
>>> you to be familiar with the norms and expectations of the QGIS Community
>>> and b) so that we can get to know your team members and gain a sense of
>>> confidence that you are committed to the ongoing maintenance of the Hana
>>> provider and related impacted code in QGIS.
>>> * Packaging and Integration Effort: We would like to ask you if you can
>>> give us some indication of the packaging overhead expected for shipping
>>> your provider in our standard QGIS packages that we distribute for
>>> macOS, Windows and Linux. Have you been able to test on all of these
>>> platforms and is the provider fully self-contained? Or does it depend on
>>> additional libraries that need to be installed on the host operating
>>> system? If so are all of the aforementioned operating systems supported?
>>> Also, note that providers are shipped on mobile implementations of QGIS
>>> (QField and INPUT) and we would like to know that these platforms will
>>> also support your Hana provider. Finally with regard to packaging, if
>>> there is additional overhead for packaging we would like to ask you to
>>> support the QGIS project, either financially or by providing developer
>>> time, to ensure that everything is cleanly packaged for all supported
>>> platforms.
>>> * Point of contact: We would like to ask you to provide a single point
>>> of contact who will be technically knowledgeable and responsive to
>>> requests such as bug reports or questions from our community concerning
>>> your provider implementation.
>>> * Upcoming API changes: For QGIS 3.10 we are planning to integrate a new
>>> abstraction layer for provider connection management. We would like to
>>> ask you to work with Alessandro Pasotti to get the Hana provider in line
>>> with the other providers. This may involve subcontracting him directly
>>> if the process requires more time than he is willing to donate.
>>>
>>> Lastly, we would like to say big “thank you” for choosing QGIS as a
>>> platform for your Hana provider implementation - we do appreciate that
>>> having it in QGIS and the new opportunities that it will open for our
>>> users in enterprise environments. We hope you enjoy working with the
>>> QGIS Community and we look forward to having a long and fruitful
>>> association together! We would also like to invite you to consider
>>> financially supporting the QGIS project through our sustaining
>>> membership programme
>>> (https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/sustaining_members/sustaining_members.html#qgis-sustaining-memberships)
>>> - as you probably realised from this email and the discussions
>>> surrounding your pull request, there is a lot of community / volunteer
>>> effort that goes into maintaining and managing the QGIS project and
>>> financial support allows us to offload the maintenance burden introduced
>>> by adding new provider such as the Hana driver to ad hoc contractors or
>>> paid community members.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> The QGIS Community
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