[Qgis-psc] MacOS maintenance

[Andreas Neumann]

Hi Denis,

Yes - we discussed this in the March meeting. Marco had a TODO item to
inform you. Apparently - this did not happen ;-( There are more TODO items
from Marco that seem to concern you (e.g. Qt for Python) - you need to talk
to him!

We decided that you can start with the 5k € budget (take it over from
Lutra) - and that we need to plan ahead for the 2023 budget.

Also, as I said, probably in June, I know more about our income side and we
can see if we can spend more on MacOS packaging (beyond the 5k in the 2022
budget) in the second half of the year 2022.

Thanks,
Andreas

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 at 09:15, Denis Rouzaud <denis.rouzaud at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear PSC,
>
> Is there any news on this front?
>
> Kind regards,
> Denis
>
> Le jeu. 10 févr. 2022 à 11:49, Denis Rouzaud <denis.rouzaud at gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> Dear PSC,
>>
>>
>> After some internal discussions at OPENGIS.ch, I would like to raise my
>> interest and motivation for being involved in the MacOS packaging and
>> maintenance.
>>
>>
>> It has been already discussed with Peter who is happy to step back from
>> macos maintenance.
>>
>> As a small recap of the technical situation, the current dependency build
>> system is based on an old work from Matthias, Osgeo4a. It has been used
>> until recently for QField too, but was switched to a generic and actively
>> maintained package management system: Microsoft’s vcpkg because of the huge
>> maintenance overhead.
>>
>> A complete rewrite of the current dependencies build system sounds
>> premature though.
>>
>> I would like to propose the following approach:
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    We get involved into the packaging for MacOS, taking over current
>>    Lutra’s assignment for 2022
>>    -
>>
>>    We spend the available time in budget (5000 € at 110€/h, including
>>    the notarization, correct me if I’m wrong) to
>>    -
>>
>>       update the deps to a recent state
>>       -
>>
>>       build and bundle next releases 3.24+
>>       -
>>
>>       try to bring the notarization with this release
>>       -
>>
>>       try to bring the build of deps and maybe QGIS into a CI
>>
>>
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    I believe this would be very difficult with the available time, and
>>    would propose to report back when I reach 80% of the budget. We would then
>>    discuss on the possible approaches (financing, an official sponsorship from
>>    OPENGIS.ch, maybe some “free” work from other contributors)
>>
>>
>> For the future, we believe that the maintenance of the dependency
>> management system should not be on QGIS alone and instead should be
>> mutualized among platforms, developers and with the industry. Be it vcpkg
>> or something else, we should introduce an actively maintained solution.
>> This is a future yet unplanned work, but I would like to mention this to
>> clearly state our vision regarding the optimal solution after 2022.
>>
>> Last but not least is the question of the arm packages for MacOS. I think
>> that I would be able to bring a roadmap and work estimation once I’ve
>> worked a bit more on our packaging system. I think we could plan something
>> before the end of the year.
>>
>> What are your thoughts regarding the finances for these two things
>> (dependency management system and arm packages for QGIS)? Is this something
>> that must be postponed to 2023 or would it still be possible this year?
>>
>>
>>
>> Please let me know your thoughts.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Denis
>>
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Andreas Neumann
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