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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi<br>
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      Thank you Andreas for the update about the status of the finances.
      What would be the cost of 2 * half a week + bug queue management?
      I understand the € 14'800 is before having paied Jürgen and
      Martin. What is the amount on our account after all the bug fixing
      activities?<br>
      <br>
      I'm most likely in favor of the additional work, but imho it is
      hard to vote on something without knowing the exact numbers.<br>
      <br>
      >* we need some more efficient decision system.<br>
      <br>
      The delay of the release is not something that happened
      unexpectedly. I can hardly remind a release where it did not
      happen. So instead of a quicker decision system we need a budget
      plan.<br>
      <br>
      Regards,<br>
      Marco<br>
      <br>
      On 27.10.2014 21:52, Tim Sutton wrote:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:23 PM,
            Paolo Cavallini <span dir="ltr"><<a
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              </span>Il 27/10/2014 15:57, Jürgen E. Fischer ha scritto:<br>
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                > Although I have the same problem.  I can "randomly"
                fix bugs, but I<br>
                > spend more time to find them, then to actually fix
                any.  I spend<br>
                > some of the weekend to review bugs, add categories,
                close some<br>
                > feedbackless bugs.<br>
                ><br>
                > Some would require wider work, that I wouldn't like
                to do shortly<br>
                > before the release.  Some are in my view less
                important than<br>
                > others, although that is not reflected by the
                current<br>
                > prioritization in redmine.  To me it's the impact
                that matters - so<br>
                > bugs in central functions are more important than
                hardly used<br>
                > functions - whether it a regression or not is less
                important to<br>
                > me.<br>
                <br>
              </span>Hi all.<br>
              I agree:<br>
              * we need a better classification system to prioritize the
              importance<br>
              of bugs (I still think the Debian approach is a good one)<br>
              * we need someone managing the bug queue, particularly
              during the<br>
              freezing period, but also outside it<br>
              * we need some more efficient decision system.<br>
              All in all, this boils down to investing some resource to
              support key<br>
              roles. I'd suggest to send the OK straight away for an
              extra 2 days of<br>
              bugfixing for both Martin and Juergen, and discuss the
              issue in the<br>
              next PSC meeting.<br>
              <span class="">All the best.<br>
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            <div>Can I suggest then that (if we have the funds) we pay
              Giovanni to also spend two days reviewing the tickets and
              feeding Martin and Juergen the highest priority issues
              after establishing how to reproduce them.</div>
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            <div>+1 from me for them to proceed</div>
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            <div>Regards</div>
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            <div>Tim</div>
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