<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Andreas Neumann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:a.neumann@carto.net" target="_blank">a.neumann@carto.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    The survey looks good.<br>
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    I discovered one small typo and have two suggestions:<br>
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    Typo:<br>
    <span>QGIS does not enable me to carry out
      the critical tasks I need, I need so use other GIS packages<br>
      --> ..., I need to use ...<br></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">​Fixed thanks!​</div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><span>
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      Suggestion 1:<br>
      For the question "</span><span>How often
      do you use the QGIS documentation":<br>
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      Add an option: "Occasionaly" - so we have something in between
      "Monthly" and "Never" - I consider myself to be in that group.<br></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">​Done​</div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><span>
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      Suggestion 2:<br>
      Ask for domain/industry - like:<br>
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      I work for<br>
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      <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">​​</div>- private consulting company<br>
    </span><span><span>-
        government (federal level)<br>
      </span>- government (province level)<br>
      - government (municipal level)<br>
      - education (university level)<br>
      - education (other)<br>
      - military/intelligence<br>
      - NGO<br>
      - private (hobby)<br>
      - anything else?<br>
      <br></span></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">​​</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">​Good idea, added thanks! I also added one asking how many people in your organisation use QGIS</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tim​</div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><span>
      Thanks,<br>
      Andreas<br>
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    <div>On 14.10.2015 09:44, Tim Sutton wrote:<br>
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      Apologies I sent this the the gmail PSC group earner by mistake:<br>
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      <div>@andreas I incorporated some changes to the form to include
        your ideas</div>
      <div>@paolo I also added some fields to incorporate your ideas</div>
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      <div>Regards</div>
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      <div>Tim</div>
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          <div>Begin forwarded message:</div>
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          <div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">Tim Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@qgis.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:tim@qgis.org" target="_blank">tim@qgis.org</a>><br>
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          <div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>QGIS Usage survey</b><br>
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          <div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">14 October 2015 at 06:49:29 SAST<br>
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          <div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:psc@qgis.org" target="_blank">psc@qgis.org</a><br>
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              <div>Hi all</div>
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              <div>I guess you have all been following along on
                the discussion started by Andreas about release
                frequency etc. I was thinking that one issue we have
                with these types of discussions is that we lack any
                meaningful data - all the arguments are based on
                anecdotal usage. I was thinking that it would be good to
                run a survey like this:</div>
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              <div><a href="http://goo.gl/forms/FPvlBzkquQ" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/forms/FPvlBzkquQ</a></div>
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              <div>We could do an embed of it into our website
                and market it to the user, dev, community, ux, twitter
                etc. mailing lists.</div>
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              <div>I agree that things can be improved and I am
                thinking that we should apply basic supply and demand
                theory: when we have an ‘over supply’ of patches to
                QGIS, we should make it ‘more expensive’ to contribute
                them by increasing the minimum criteria for submission
                for example:</div>
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              <div>* requiring tests (for GUI changes too)</div>
              <div>* requiring complete API documentation (for
                C++ and Python)</div>
              <div>* requiring complete end user documentation
                (the doc team can then focus on editing docs rather than
                composing them)</div>
              <div>* requiring a changelog when appropriate</div>
              <div>* requiring existing tests all pass</div>
              <div>* requiring coding standards adherance</div>
              <div>* requiring bug fixes be supported with a
                regression test wherever possible</div>
              <div> *etc.</div>
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              <div>(Yes I realise some items in my list are
                already in place). Of course this will add more
                bureaucracy to the process of applying changes to QGIS
                and we would need to figure out how to manage that
                cleanly. I think another thing high on our agenda at the
                project level should be looking to employ one or more
                developers full time to actually manage this process.
                Perhaps we can hold a campaign to fund 1 year salary for
                such a person and try to make that happen?</div>
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              <div>But first lets get some real data about who
                uses QGIS and what their concerns are. If the PSC is in
                general agreement, can we put out the survey to do that?
                Feel free to suggest additions / changes to the survey
                before I send it out….</div>
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              <div>Regards</div>
              <div><br>
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              <div>Tim</div>
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                  <div>Tim Sutton</div>
                  <div>QGIS Project Steering Committee Member</div>
                  <div><a href="mailto:tim@qgis.org" target="_blank">tim@qgis.org</a></div>
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          <div>Tim Sutton</div>
          <div>QGIS Project Steering Committee Member</div>
          <div><a href="mailto:tim@qgis.org" target="_blank">tim@qgis.org</a></div>
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