<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:10 PM, Tim Sutton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank">tim@kartoza.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi all<div><br></div><div>Unless there are further comments, are you all ok for me to go ahead and send this out tomorrow? Will you please help by rebroadcasting the survey call blog post I will write to your twitter / Facebook etc followers?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">+1 Thanks Tim!</div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br></div><div>Tim<div><div class="h5"><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 14 Oct 2015, at 11:44, Tim Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank">tim@kartoza.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Andreas Neumann<span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:a.neumann@carto.net" target="_blank">a.neumann@carto.net</a>></span><span> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">The survey looks good.<br><br>I discovered one small typo and have two suggestions:<br><br>Typo:<br><span>QGIS does not enable me to carry out the critical tasks I need, I need so use other GIS packages<br>--> ..., I need to use ...<br></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Fixed thanks!</div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><span><br>Suggestion 1:<br>For the question "</span><span>How often do you use the QGIS documentation":<br><br>Add an option: "Occasionaly" - so we have something in between "Monthly" and "Never" - I consider myself to be in that group.<br></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Done</div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><span><br>Suggestion 2:<br>Ask for domain/industry - like:<br><br>I work for<br><br><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline"></div>- private consulting company<br></span><span><span>- government (federal level)<br></span>- government (province level)<br>- government (municipal level)<br>- education (university level)<br>- education (other)<br>- military/intelligence<br>- NGO<br>- private (hobby)<br>- anything else?<br><br></span></div></blockquote><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Good idea, added thanks! I also added one asking how many people in your organisation use QGIS</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tim</div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><span>Thanks,<br>Andreas<br></span><div><div><br><div>On 14.10.2015 09:44, Tim Sutton wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>Apologies I sent this the the gmail PSC group earner by mistake:<br><div><br></div><div>@andreas I incorporated some changes to the form to include your ideas</div><div>@paolo I also added some fields to incorporate your ideas</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Tim</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>From:<span> </span></b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif">Tim Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@qgis.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:tim@qgis.org" target="_blank">tim@qgis.org</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>Subject:<span> </span></b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>QGIS Usage survey</b><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>Date:<span> </span></b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif">14 October 2015 at 06:49:29 SAST<br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>To:<span> </span></b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:psc@qgis.org" target="_blank">psc@qgis.org</a><br></span></div><br><div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Hi all</div><div><br></div><div>I guess you have all been following along on the discussion started by Andreas about release frequency etc. I was thinking that one issue we have with these types of discussions is that we lack any meaningful data - all the arguments are based on anecdotal usage. I was thinking that it would be good to run a survey like this:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://goo.gl/forms/FPvlBzkquQ" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/forms/FPvlBzkquQ</a></div><div><br></div><div>We could do an embed of it into our website and market it to the user, dev, community, ux, twitter etc. mailing lists.</div><div><br></div><div>I agree that things can be improved and I am thinking that we should apply basic supply and demand theory: when we have an ‘over supply’ of patches to QGIS, we should make it ‘more expensive’ to contribute them by increasing the minimum criteria for submission for example:</div><div><br></div><div>* requiring tests (for GUI changes too)</div><div>* requiring complete API documentation (for C++ and Python)</div><div>* requiring complete end user documentation (the doc team can then focus on editing docs rather than composing them)</div><div>* requiring a changelog when appropriate</div><div>* requiring existing tests all pass</div><div>* requiring coding standards adherance</div><div>* requiring bug fixes be supported with a regression test wherever possible</div><div> *etc.</div><div><br></div><div>(Yes I realise some items in my list are already in place). Of course this will add more bureaucracy to the process of applying changes to QGIS and we would need to figure out how to manage that cleanly. I think another thing high on our agenda at the project level should be looking to employ one or more developers full time to actually manage this process. Perhaps we can hold a campaign to fund 1 year salary for such a person and try to make that happen?</div><div><br></div><div>But first lets get some real data about who uses QGIS and what their concerns are. If the PSC is in general agreement, can we put out the survey to do that? Feel free to suggest additions / changes to the survey before I send it out….</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Tim</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><span><img height="60" width="60"></span><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div><br><br></div><div>Tim Sutton</div><div>QGIS Project Steering Committee Member</div><div><a href="mailto:tim@qgis.org" target="_blank">tim@qgis.org</a></div><div><br></div></div><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br><div><span><img height="60" width="60"></span><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div><br><br></div><div>Tim Sutton</div><div>QGIS Project Steering Committee Member</div><div><a href="mailto:tim@qgis.org" target="_blank">tim@qgis.org</a></div><div><br></div></div><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><br><br><fieldset></fieldset><br></div></div><span><pre>_______________________________________________
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