<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi<div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 10 Feb 2016, at 00:15, Matthias Kuhn - <a href="http://opengis.ch" class="">OPENGIS.ch</a> <<a href="mailto:matthias@opengis.ch" class="">matthias@opengis.ch</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">Hi PSC,<br class="">
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Thank you very much for taking a decision, that will help very much to get ahead!<br class="">
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Just one question, did you evaluate to switch master with a qgis2 branch and qgis3 with master? So basically the same schema but with renamed branches.<br class="">
IMHO that would make it clearer that devs are encouraged to work on qgis 3 and we would not have to "replace" a branch but instead just retire the qgis2 branch once the release happened.<br class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>I think the problem with that is that there are a lot of downstream build activities that would break straight away if we swap branches around, whilst the intent is to keep master in a stable, packageable state while work goes on in the 3.0. branch.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Regards</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Tim</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">
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Thanks again and best wishes<br class="">
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Matthias<br class="">
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On February 9, 2016 11:30:28 AM GMT+01:00, Tim Sutton <<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" class="">tim@kartoza.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
>Hi<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
>On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 2:58 AM, Larry Shaffer <<a href="mailto:larrys@dakotacarto.com" class="">larrys@dakotacarto.com</a>><br class="">
>wrote:<br class="">
><br class="">
>> Hi Tim, Jürgen and PSC,<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> After reviewing this plan I have to say it is an excellent solution<br class="">
>to a<br class="">
>> no-size-fits-all problem. Thank you for all the consideration and<br class="">
>work you<br class="">
>> have put into it.<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> I now have a solid (and indeterminate :^) schedule to present to my<br class="">
>> employer, which will help them plan resources to fund further QGIS<br class="">
>> development.<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> It will also help with planning on how/when to produce new nightlies<br class="">
>for<br class="">
>> Mac.<br class="">
>><br class="">
><br class="">
>Thanks Larry - I will post my blog post summarising everything tonight<br class="">
>(including salient bits from the above discussion). Yes its<br class="">
>interterminate,<br class="">
>but I think the general aim is still to try to encourage everyone to<br class="">
>get it<br class="">
>ready for 1 year from now (as much as we can).<br class="">
><br class="">
>Regards<br class="">
><br class="">
>Tim<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
>><br class="">
>> Regards,<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> Larry Shaffer<br class="">
>> QGIS Support/Development | Boundless<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> Dakota Cartography<br class="">
>> Black Hills, South Dakota<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Jürgen E. <<a href="mailto:jef@norbit.de" class="">jef@norbit.de</a>> wrote:<br class="">
>><br class="">
>>> Hi Tim,<br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>> On Mon, 08. Feb 2016 at 14:01:12 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote:<br class="">
>>> > Thanks Andreas - I’ll just paraphrase the above as another note in<br class="">
>the<br class="">
>>> > article - should make things a bit clearer!<br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>> Yes. We do 2.16 with PyQt5/Python3 support next to the existing<br class="">
>>> Qt4/PyQt4/Python2 and the existing and widely unused Qt5 support. <br class="">
>So we<br class="">
>>> have<br class="">
>>> all the smooth, non-breaking steps in master. We'll still release<br class="">
>using<br class="">
>>> Qt4/PyQt4/Python2, so that all the plugins keep working. And people<br class="">
>can<br class="">
>>> complete stuff that they have already started working on.<br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>> 2.16 will be in the regular 4 months schedule.<br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>> After 2.16 we branch off a qgis3 branch that gets the API changes. <br class="">
>There<br class="">
>>> we<br class="">
>>> drop Qt4/PyQt4/Python2 support and switch to Qt5/PyQt5/Python3. <br class="">
>Because<br class="">
>>> we<br class="">
>>> cannot really estimate if that takes 4, 8 or even more months, we'll<br class="">
>work<br class="">
>>> on<br class="">
>>> that on a "release when ready" scheme an see how it goes and set a<br class="">
>date<br class="">
>>> when<br class="">
>>> qgis3 stabilized.<br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>> The qgis3 branch will be in development so at first we'll probably<br class="">
>have<br class="">
>>> something that doesn't build at all, requires dependencies that are<br class="">
>not<br class="">
>>> easy<br class="">
>>> available or at least not available on all platforms, while we're at<br class="">
>it.<br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>> Because there might be stuff, that can't wait that long, we<br class="">
>meanwhile keep<br class="">
>>> master open for new features. The nightlies can keep on going<br class="">
>without<br class="">
>>> much<br class="">
>>> effort and also regular releases could be done if necessary.<br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>> But master should still considered a dead branch as we is relies on<br class="">
>fading<br class="">
>>> dependencies and it will be eventually be replaced by the qgis3 (no<br class="">
>>> merge). So<br class="">
>>> stuff added to master before will get lost, if it was not also<br class="">
>merged or<br class="">
>>> redone<br class="">
>>> for qgis3. So people should think twice if they consider to do<br class="">
>anything<br class="">
>>> in<br class="">
>>> master while we're at qgis3.<br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>> Jürgen<br class="">
>>><br class="">
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