<div dir="ltr">Hi All<div><br></div><div>From my side I am ok with <a href="http://QGIS.ORG">QGIS.ORG</a> funding work where we feel it is in the good of the project. I think the simple solution if we have the cash is to just raise a Loomio proposal with the Voting Members and let them decide. I think there should be some leeway for QGIS to make discretionary sponsorships of features or bug fixing etc. outside of the normal budget plans (so that we can e.g. capitalise on budget savings as per your example above) but I am worried that we will appear to subvert the QGIS Grant Programme process if we do it in this case. Getting it done by a loomio vote (with a nice clear explanation of why it is useful) should be quick and easy and transparent.</div><div><br></div><div>BTW I am also very -1 on you spending your personal cash on this - we (<a href="http://QGIS.ORG">QGIS.ORG</a>) already use a lot of your time (which equates to lost earnings potential) via your work in the PSC and I would not like to see you putting in your cash too when probably the community would be happy to fund it.</div><div><br></div><div>I am also thinking it might be useful to broaden our scope a bit and collect up any other QGIS Server work that needs funding into one work package and make the proposal to fund everything that we can. I would not like to see QGIS Server get left behind as we forge on to QGIS 3.0 and we should support it as strongly as possible from the <a href="http://QGIS.ORG">QGIS.ORG</a> funds. I think this approach might also be more effective than a crowd funding drive too which may result in a lengthy wait for no result.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Tim</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 9:37 PM, Régis Haubourg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:regis.haubourg@gmail.com" target="_blank">regis.haubourg@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi All, <div>Sorry for being late here. </div><div><br></div><div>The big picture of what needs to be done has been drawn at the codesprint in Lyon [0].</div><div><br></div><div>We know that Camp2Camp has a benchmark framework that would address the performance driven coding. </div><div><br></div><div>3liz is involved in adding more modularity and refactors other services. </div><div><br></div><div>Alessandro Passoti is committed in refactoring the plugin API. </div><div><br></div><div>Beyond those cleanups or rewrites, we also identified the need to find a common strategy to allow scalability of QGIS server (caching layers and project over server clusters)</div><div><br></div><div><div>At Oslandia, we have funders that helped us in refactoring of WMS services, OGC compliancy, security and performance issues. We keep working on these items on our owns resources. </div><div><br></div><div>Currently, our partners claim for some feedback before considering funding more work :</div><div><br></div><div> - Having some official feedback that this work is appreciated and welcome by the <a href="http://qgis.org" target="_blank">qgis.org</a> project</div><div><br></div><div> - Having some references (web pages, blog, talks) showing that pushing this work is triggering commitment from others parties, if possible other corporations. </div><div><br></div><div> - and of course, see some real preliminary results of the already done tasks.</div><div><br></div><div>I think that the PSC could help in the communication plan to help funders feel that they are not alone, and that there is a large community trusting in the future of QGIS server and working hard on it. </div><div><br></div><div>On our side, we have some web articles ready to publish, we will have a common talk with 3liz at the Foss4G Europe in Paris. </div></div><div><br></div><div>That said, any additional funding is more than welcome, but I'd prefer to set up a common strategy than individual fundings. </div><div>Crowdfunding initiative in France are almost impossible to raise for private structures, so if QGIS.org is going this way, we'll need a proxy in front the different involved parties, and we'll have to coordinate on the funding attributions. </div><div>Last point, Nyall has already a crowdfuding campaign opened, so not sure if that could interfer or not (and we need that composer rewrite :) )</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers, and thanks for all the good energy being given here!</div><div><br></div><div>[0] <a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/wiki/Code-Sprint-QGIS-3-Lyon,-end-2016" target="_blank">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/<wbr>wiki/Code-Sprint-QGIS-3-Lyon,-<wbr>end-2016</a></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-05-20 15:10 GMT+02:00 Matthias Kuhn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matthias@opengis.ch" target="_blank">matthias@opengis.ch</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On 5/19/17 5:15 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote:<br>
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> Il 19/05/2017 17:06, Matthias Kuhn ha scritto:<br>
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>> A very good idea indeed.<br>
>> Are you proposing to have someone private take the lead, are you<br>
>> thinking of 3liz as developers or are you speaking of "we" with the<br>
>> Faunalia hat? Anything will do, just to make sure nobody feels<br>
>> responsible :)<br>
> sorry, I as in fact unclear: when I write here I speak as PSC member, so<br>
> we==<a href="http://QGIS.ORG" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">QGIS.ORG</a> PSC<br>
</span>Sorry, I thought that <a href="http://qgis.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">qgis.org</a> does not directly involve in crowdfunding<br>
projects, I must have missed the decision when this was changed. Are the<br>
requirements for a project to be executed by <a href="http://qgis.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">qgis.org</a> available somewhere?<br>
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All the best<br>
<span class="m_8304537503612976972HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Matthias<br>
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