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<p>Hi Tim,</p>
<p>I am hoping to find a payment service (with support for credit
cards - because apparently this is what sponsors outside of Europe
usually use, and most of our donors) that only charges along 2-3
%, not 5-10 %. I had a look at payment solutions of the bank that
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<p>I don't have any insight into the PayPal account of Horst, I am
assuming we pay the same horrible fees like for our PayPal account
- we just did not notice until now.<br>
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<p>I also found out that most payment services charge more fees for
businesses/organizations/NGOs than they charge for private
persons. Like Revolut or TransferWise - they are "free" (or
marginal fees) for private persons, but organizations/businesses
pay. In case of Revolut, there is a fee of 25 £ to keep a global
account with credit cards. Still this may be much cheaper than
PayPal. Paypal earned >300 € just in the past three weeks from
QGIS.ORG. If we extrapolate this over the past couple years,
PayPal sucked out many thousand € from our donations and
sponsorship fees.</p>
<p>Anyway - please all - keep your eyes open on new and innovative
payment solutions.<br>
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<p>As suggested by Tim, I will also ask the bank where we have our
bank account for direct credit card payment solutions, direct to
our bank account. Perhaps the fees are reasonable.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Andreas<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24.08.2017 20:28, Tim Sutton wrote:<br>
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<div>Wow! Thank you for looking around for an alternative! I
wonder if we can't just get a straight merchant banking
facility (I don't know what you call it in Europe) that lets
us accept credit card payment straight to our account. Perhaps
it is worth asking the bank if they offer such a facility?</div>
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<div>BTW is this only affecting us now that we have our own
PayPal account or did we take a similar hit when operating
through Horst's PayPal account too?</div>
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<div>Regards</div>
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<div>Tim</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 4:14 PM,
Andreas Neumann <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:a.neumann@carto.net" target="_blank"
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear PSC,<br>
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I now tried to withdraw money from PayPal to our bank
account.<br>
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Next to a bad exchange rate (not the interbank rate) they
charge 2.5% currency conversion fee for a conversion they
force me to do, because they refuse to send EUR to a Swiss
bank account (although all the other banks in the world can
do that). They also refuse to link a European bank account
to a Swiss PayPal account. How mad is that?<br>
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This means that overall they earn about 10% of our income.
This is insane.<br>
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Not even a regular bank charges that much!<br>
<br>
How I HATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PayPAL
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br>
<br>
Andreas<br>
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