<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi,<br><br></div>btw the biggest problem I see in submitting bugs from within QGIS is that the user would not be able to submit a bug like "QGIS does not start", or to submit a bug from a different machine where QGIS is not installed.<br><br><br>Btw a custom user-agent can be easily set up in QgsNetworkAccessManager.<br><br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Tim Sutton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tim@kartoza.com" target="_blank">tim@kartoza.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Hi<div><br></div><div>Thanks for your comments Nyall, Nathan and Matthias. It seems that the user agent is rather easy to do:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.qt.io/How_to_set_user_agent_in_Qt_application" target="_blank">https://wiki.qt.io/How_to_set_<wbr>user_agent_in_Qt_application</a></div><div><br></div><div>So it should automatically add QGIS and the current version to the header. And for an apache rule we could use a regex like this on the redline signup page:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://serverfault.com/a/749446" target="_blank">https://serverfault.com/a/<wbr>749446</a></div><div><br></div><div>(Replacing <span style="font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace,sans-serif;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;white-space:inherit;color:rgb(36,39,41);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(239,240,241)">SetEnvIfNoCase with </span><span style="font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,"Lucida Console","Liberation Mono","DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",monospace,sans-serif;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;white-space:inherit;color:rgb(36,39,41);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(239,240,241)">SetEnvIfCase)</span><div><br></div><div>I would propose that we try to build this quickly (sounds like a good use of QGIS funds??) and get it done as a feature freeze exception. Then we just need something on redline saying that you need to sign up from in QGIS.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Tim</div></font></span><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>On 01 Dec 2017, at 11:37, Matthias Kuhn <<a href="mailto:matthias@opengis.ch" target="_blank">matthias@opengis.ch</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-4525899095202860104Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div><div><div><div class="h5">
  
    
  
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                have users submit bugs easily AND have no spam. In case
                it wasnt clear above, my proposal above advocates
                ditching mantras in favour of a 'normal' sign up
                process​ but the process has to happen through a QGIS
                browser agent. I reckon that is a pretty low friction
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                Nathan;s comment about GitHub, while I am +1 about
                using  github as an option to sign in, my experience is
                that signing up for github is just as obscure for
                'normal' users as a mantra, so if we are going to make
                users sign up for one more thing, <a href="http://hub.qgis.org/" target="_blank">hub.qgis.org</a> should be that
                thing.... In summary my preference is:</div>
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                Make it convenient for *everyone* to file tickets</div>
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                Kill the mantra - it is the most un-user friendly
                experience we could give people <br>
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                Make the initial sign up happen through a browser
                embedded in QGIS to prevent spammers. Within that sign
                up:<br>
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                  * Support github authentication if we can to make it
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                  * Support sign up through local user database in
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    Thanks Tim,<br>
    I have the same preferences,<br>
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    Having a painless option to signup through QGIS itself and thus make
    it less spam-prone sounds great.<br>
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    We probably still need a "classic" signup way through webpages for
    the "I can't signup because my QGIS crashes on start scenario" and
    that would be solved by the github, other oAuth or osgeo login.<br>
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    Regards<br>
    Matthias<br>
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