<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Kurt, <br></div><div>thanks for sharing the link, that helps a lot. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm a bit surprised bit this block:</div><div>----</div><div><span id="gmail-docs-internal-guid-0c8180da-7fff-c7f8-5bb6-ad6c1a36d978"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><i><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">You are required to provide the training material for <b>each</b> of your courses. This includes exercises, lectures and data. This material will be reviewed for currentness, accurate representation of the QGIS project and overall quality. </span></i></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><i><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">If the material is not of adequate quality, this can be cause for refusal.</span></i></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">----<br></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">I think we can't let this so strictly formulated. That implies ALL courses, including lectures and data needs to be released. I never give two identical courses with the same dataset or supports. So we should probably ease that with something like</span></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">-- <span id="gmail-docs-internal-guid-0c8180da-7fff-c7f8-5bb6-ad6c1a36d978"><i><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">You are required to provide the training material for <b>each</b> generic course level ----</span></i></span></span></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span id="gmail-docs-internal-guid-0c8180da-7fff-c7f8-5bb6-ad6c1a36d978"><i><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></i></span></span></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Formulated like currently, I am really concerned we get perceived as extremists and that very few trainers jump into the certification program. Which would mean it's death before it's even born - and no incomes funding QGIS.org in the end.<br></span></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Just a reminder, most European trainings are made via universities or dedicated funding entity that have their own certification process. They don't recognized any validity to the QGIS.org certificates.  So the value of our certification program is a delicate balance between recognizing a quality of contribution for a trainer, which is worth if trainees choose them instead on that criteria, and the administrative burden for the trainer. Not speaking of universities that don't have any budget available for buying the certificates.  <br></span></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">In our case, I doubt I would have a clearance to spend so much time in administrative work, when I could have one to spend more time in contributing to the common training materials in QGIS's github repository. And one can't contribute in all parts of a project, this is too much to ask. <br></span></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Sorry to be crude, but I don't recognize the discussion we had in Zanzibar here. <br></span></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Best regards<br></span></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Régis<br></span></p></span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Le lun. 8 oct. 2018 à 19:45, Kurt Menke <<a href="mailto:kurt@birdseyeviewgis.com">kurt@birdseyeviewgis.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">I forgot to include the link to this doc to make editing easier<div><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I0qROVANffdhN34tQq41FQN6gPSaRt_GElkdqxJAX0Q/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I0qROVANffdhN34tQq41FQN6gPSaRt_GElkdqxJAX0Q/edit?usp=sharing</a><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-8807432816714333496gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><p><a name="m_-8807432816714333496_SignatureSanitizer_SafeHtmlFilter_UNIQUE_ID_SafeHtmlFilter__MailAutoSig"><span style="font-size:10pt">**************************</span></a></p>

<p><span style="font-size:10pt">Kurt Menke</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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