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<p>Forgot to add the psc address.</p>
<p>cheers All</p>
<p>Marco<br>
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<td>Re: [Qgis-psc] Discussion around changing sponsors to
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<td>Marco Bernasocchi <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marco@qgis.org"><marco@qgis.org></a></td>
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<td>Andreas Neumann <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:a.neumann@carto.net"><a.neumann@carto.net></a></td>
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<div dir="auto">Hi Andreas, thanks for picking up this subject.
I very much recognise the discussion we had in Zanzibar and I
think this would be a good Idea.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I think calling them supporting members could be
good but I'm not sure if we couldn't come up with a better
name that makes immediately clear that i is a non voting
position.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Would you suggest removing completely the
sponsors notion or have booth?</div>
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<div dir="auto">Cheers</div>
<div dir="auto">Marco</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Wed, 21 Nov 2018, 22:03 Andreas Neumann <<a
href="mailto:a.neumann@carto.net" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">a.neumann@carto.net</a>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear PSC
(and active contributors),<br>
<br>
I would like to discuss if we could change our statutes
again (sorry <br>
about that - and of course only if you agree - we can vote
on it).<br>
<br>
The idea is to change our current sponsorships we have to a
membership <br>
in the future. As it is now it would be purely voluntary -
and they <br>
wouldn't have voting rights. We could call them "sustaining
members" or <br>
"supporting members" and we could still keep different
membership <br>
categories. Instead of calling them gold/silver/bronze, we
would could <br>
them something like small (the current bronze), normal (the
current <br>
silver), large (the current gold) - or something similar
(perhaps you <br>
have better ideas about the naming) - just to make sure it
is not a <br>
sponsorship anymore - and gold/silver/bronze is quite
attached to <br>
sponsorships.<br>
<br>
Why would I suggest such a change?<br>
<br>
* There is a good chance that our sponsorship payments will
reach a <br>
limit (150k CHF = approx. 130k €), if we would surpass that
limit, then <br>
we would have to charge VAT on the sponsorship payments<br>
<br>
* on the other hand membership fees of an association are
not subject to VAT<br>
<br>
* a membership could be easier for public authorities to
pay, instead of <br>
a sponsorship<br>
<br>
* Maybe organizations are more likely to renew a membership
fee than a <br>
sponsorship (maybe more commitment) - but not sure about
that.<br>
<br>
* we would still have a public listing of sustaining members
(with their <br>
logos, website and location), but we wouldn't call them
sponsors anymore<br>
<br>
* Members are welcome to add a donation on top of the
membership fee. <br>
This would be similar to now. Some bronze sponsors maybe
voluntarily pay <br>
1500 instead of 500, but are still listed as bronze, until
they would <br>
surpass the threshold of the next level.<br>
<br>
We can discuss or think about if we can give such
sustaining/supporting <br>
members some additional benefits (which would help attract
more of them) <br>
- e.g. a small member could name 2 bugs that get prioritized
during bug <br>
fixing time, for normal it would be 5 and for large some
maybe 10. Or <br>
maybe you would have some other ideas about benefits for
such members <br>
instead. I think they shouldn't have voting rights - that
should stay <br>
with the current voting members (the active contributors,
user groups <br>
and developers).<br>
<br>
Thoughts?<br>
<br>
Greetings,<br>
<br>
Andreas<br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 21 Nov 2018 22:03, "Andreas Neumann"
<<a href="mailto:a.neumann@carto.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">a.neumann@carto.net</a>> wrote:<br
type="attribution">
<blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear PSC
(and active contributors),<br>
<br>
I would like to discuss if we could change our statutes
again (sorry <br>
about that - and of course only if you agree - we can vote
on it).<br>
<br>
The idea is to change our current sponsorships we have to a
membership <br>
in the future. As it is now it would be purely voluntary -
and they <br>
wouldn't have voting rights. We could call them "sustaining
members" or <br>
"supporting members" and we could still keep different
membership <br>
categories. Instead of calling them gold/silver/bronze, we
would could <br>
them something like small (the current bronze), normal (the
current <br>
silver), large (the current gold) - or something similar
(perhaps you <br>
have better ideas about the naming) - just to make sure it
is not a <br>
sponsorship anymore - and gold/silver/bronze is quite
attached to <br>
sponsorships.<br>
<br>
Why would I suggest such a change?<br>
<br>
* There is a good chance that our sponsorship payments will
reach a <br>
limit (150k CHF = approx. 130k €), if we would surpass that
limit, then <br>
we would have to charge VAT on the sponsorship payments<br>
<br>
* on the other hand membership fees of an association are
not subject to VAT<br>
<br>
* a membership could be easier for public authorities to
pay, instead of <br>
a sponsorship<br>
<br>
* Maybe organizations are more likely to renew a membership
fee than a <br>
sponsorship (maybe more commitment) - but not sure about
that.<br>
<br>
* we would still have a public listing of sustaining members
(with their <br>
logos, website and location), but we wouldn't call them
sponsors anymore<br>
<br>
* Members are welcome to add a donation on top of the
membership fee. <br>
This would be similar to now. Some bronze sponsors maybe
voluntarily pay <br>
1500 instead of 500, but are still listed as bronze, until
they would <br>
surpass the threshold of the next level.<br>
<br>
We can discuss or think about if we can give such
sustaining/supporting <br>
members some additional benefits (which would help attract
more of them) <br>
- e.g. a small member could name 2 bugs that get prioritized
during bug <br>
fixing time, for normal it would be 5 and for large some
maybe 10. Or <br>
maybe you would have some other ideas about benefits for
such members <br>
instead. I think they shouldn't have voting rights - that
should stay <br>
with the current voting members (the active contributors,
user groups <br>
and developers).<br>
<br>
Thoughts?<br>
<br>
Greetings,<br>
<br>
Andreas<br>
<br>
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